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  1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 26 00:00:00 2007
  2. # Session Ident: #xhtml
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  18. # [15:55] <alessio> hallo all
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  23. # [16:07] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/26-xhtml-irc
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  26. # [16:07] <ShaneM> zakim, this is XHTML2
  27. # [16:07] <Zakim> ok, ShaneM; that matches IA_XHTML2()10:00AM
  28. # [16:07] <markbirbeck> zakim, codes?
  29. # [16:07] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, markbirbeck.
  30. # [16:07] <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
  31. # [16:07] <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
  32. # [16:07] <ShaneM> rrsagent, make public
  33. # [16:07] <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public ', ShaneM. Try /msg RRSAgent help
  34. # [16:08] <Zakim> +??P22
  35. # [16:08] <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
  36. # [16:08] <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named '?'
  37. # [16:08] <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ??
  38. # [16:08] <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named '??'
  39. # [16:08] <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ??22
  40. # [16:08] <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named '??22'
  41. # [16:08] <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ??p22
  42. # [16:08] <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
  43. # [16:08] <markbirbeck> zakim, who is here?
  44. # [16:08] <Zakim> On the phone I see +013868aaaa, ??P18, ShaneM, ??P19, markbirbeck
  45. # [16:08] <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, RRSAgent, ShaneM, yamx, alessio, Roland_, myakura, Lachy, krijnh
  46. # [16:09] <ShaneM> Scribe: ShaneM
  47. # [16:09] <Roland_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0015.html
  48. # [16:09] <alessio> zakim, ??P18 is Alessio
  49. # [16:09] <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
  50. # [16:10] <markbirbeck> [off] ah...that explains it. :) Normally typing "zakim, i am ?" is enough, but there are two other unidentified callers. :)
  51. # [16:10] <ShaneM> Topic: Testing XHTML Basic 1.1
  52. # [16:10] <yamx> zakim ??P19 is me (maybe)
  53. # [16:10] <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0035
  54. # [16:10] <markbirbeck> zakim, ? is yamx
  55. # [16:10] <Zakim> +yamx; got it
  56. # [16:10] <markbirbeck> [off] it is now... :)
  57. # [16:11] <ShaneM> Yam reports that OMA testfest 20 was held 2nd week of september. He could not find the test results. He needs to check whether the results are just not available yet or whether they were not done.
  58. # [16:11] <ShaneM> ACTION: Yam to report on testfest status
  59. # [16:11] * RRSAgent records action 1
  60. # [16:12] <yamx> TestFest20 (OMA) was Sep 7 to Sep 14.
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  62. # [16:13] <Zakim> +??P8
  63. # [16:14] <Rich> Zakim, ??P8 is Rich
  64. # [16:14] <Zakim> +Rich; got it
  65. # [16:14] <Roland_> XHTML Events 2 issues
  66. # [16:14] <Roland_> Mark.B has an action to deal with XML 2 events issues from John.Boyer
  67. # [16:14] <Roland_> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-xhtml-minutes.html#action02]
  68. # [16:17] <Roland_> Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup
  69. # [16:17] <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012
  70. # [16:17] <Roland_> Why is this an agenda item?
  71. # [16:19] <ShaneM> ACTION: Rich to sort out the proposal from Gregory as captured in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007May/0341.html
  72. # [16:19] * RRSAgent records action 2
  73. # [16:22] <ShaneM> TOPIC: Role and Access
  74. # [16:23] <ShaneM> Steven has made the request for Role to go to last call.
  75. # [16:24] <ShaneM> TOPIC: longdesc
  76. # [16:25] <ShaneM> We don't really know the context of this. Roland will figure out what this issue really is?
  77. # [16:25] <ShaneM> TOPIC: CURIES
  78. # [16:26] <ShaneM> All issues raised about CURIEs have been addressed.
  79. # [16:26] <ShaneM> TAG position has not been addressed - we are not sure there was a formal finding.
  80. # [16:28] <ShaneM> markbirbeck does not think that there is a formal position. He also points out that no one seems to be arguing that QNames are a good idea.
  81. # [16:30] <ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to produce a new CURIEs doc that is consistent with the RDFa doc and make it public in a similar timeframe to when the RDFa document is made public.
  82. # [16:30] * RRSAgent records action 3
  83. # [16:30] <markbirbeck> I've searched for "http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01"
  84. # [16:30] <markbirbeck> and "CompactURIReferences-5"
  85. # [16:30] <markbirbeck> which are the references in the minutes about raising a TAG issue about CURIEs.
  86. # [16:31] <markbirbeck> The minutes have:
  87. # [16:31] <markbirbeck> "ACTION: HST to circulate a candidate description to tag@w3.org [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-tagmem-minutes.html#action01]"
  88. # [16:31] <markbirbeck> But I can't find a reference to Henry doing this action.
  89. # [16:33] <ShaneM> Plan is to get a first public working out as soon after next weeks semantic web meeting as possible.
  90. # [16:34] <markbirbeck> q+
  91. # [16:34] * Zakim sees markbirbeck on the speaker queue
  92. # [16:36] <ShaneM> Shane mentioned that we merged the xhtml-rdfa module document and the rdfa-syntax document editorially. there did not seem to be any concerns about this.
  93. # [16:37] <ShaneM> q-
  94. # [16:37] * Zakim sees markbirbeck on the speaker queue
  95. # [16:37] <ShaneM> Mark referred to a discussion about what the default prefix is for xhtml-defined reserved terms.
  96. # [16:38] <markbirbeck> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Sep/0237.html
  97. # [16:39] <ShaneM> Basically the issue is what happens when you have rel="next" - how does the term 'next' get converted to a full URI?
  98. # [16:39] <ShaneM> Proposal was that we use the xhtml namespace + the term (e.g. http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml#next)
  99. # [16:40] <ShaneM> new proposal is that we introduce a new prefix within the XHTML namespace and use that as the scoping mechanism for rel/rev values.
  100. # [16:40] <ShaneM> It will be discussed tomorrow in the RDFa task force call.
  101. # [16:41] <markbirbeck> The proposal is to use: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/relations instead.
  102. # [16:41] <ShaneM> Roland asked if there is anything else that might have similar problems?
  103. # [16:41] <ShaneM> Shane mentioned that there are the values for @role
  104. # [16:42] <markbirbeck> At the moment we also have: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/datatypes
  105. # [16:42] <markbirbeck> s/relations in/relations# in/
  106. # [16:44] <ShaneM> Shane thinks we should ensure that this default prefix can encompass the rel / rev values and the role values
  107. # [16:44] <markbirbeck> s/datatypes/datatypes\//
  108. # [16:46] <ShaneM> Mark thinks we can probably just set the default prefix to be the XHTML namespace + '#' because that is really the version independent namespace for XHTML
  109. # [16:47] <ShaneM> RESOLVED: The default prefix for CURIEs in XHTML family markup languages should be 'http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml#'
  110. # [16:51] <Roland_> XML Events 2
  111. # [16:51] <Roland_> Published: http://www.w3.org/News/2007#item22
  112. # [16:51] <Roland_> Namespace comment:
  113. # [16:51] <Roland_>
  114. # [16:51] <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2007Feb/0000
  115. # [16:53] <ShaneM> The issues raised in this comment have not all been resolved.
  116. # [16:53] <ShaneM> Mark and Shane need to address this.
  117. # [16:53] <ShaneM> ACTION: Mark and Shane to address comments in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2007Feb/0000
  118. # [16:53] * RRSAgent records action 4
  119. # [16:53] <ShaneM> TOPIC: XHTML 1.1 SE comments
  120. # [16:54] <ShaneM> all those comments have been addressed.
  121. # [16:54] <ShaneM> is ready to be republished modulo that we need to put M12N 1.1 out again first.
  122. # [16:56] <ShaneM> Steven has the action to get M12N 1.1 into CR.
  123. # [16:57] <ShaneM> ACTION: Everyone please review the action item list and report if actions assigned to you are done (via e-mail)
  124. # [16:57] * RRSAgent records action 5
  125. # [16:59] <ShaneM> TOPIC: tech plenary f2f meeting
  126. # [16:59] <ShaneM> Mark is not sure. Shane is not sure.
  127. # [16:59] <alessio> me too
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  129. # [17:00] <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
  130. # [17:00] <Zakim> -markbirbeck
  131. # [17:00] <Zakim> -Alessio
  132. # [17:00] <ShaneM> RRSAgent, make minutes
  133. # [17:00] <Zakim> -Rich
  134. # [17:00] <Zakim> -yamx
  135. # [17:00] <Zakim> - +013868aaaa
  136. # [17:00] <ShaneM> [off] low tech crap
  137. # [17:00] <Zakim> -ShaneM
  138. # [17:00] <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
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  140. # [17:00] <Roland_> :-)
  141. # [17:00] <Zakim> Attendees were Roland_, ShaneM, markbirbeck, Alessio, yamx, Rich
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