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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 05 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  51. # [15:02] <&MarcoZ> Hi surkov! Happy new year! :)
  52. # [15:02] <@surkov> hey, MarcoZ! happy new year!
  53. # [15:03] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Saw my e-mail?
  54. # [15:03] <&MarcoZ> Re Chrome.
  55. # [15:03] <@surkov> yeah, thank you, I’ll answer it
  56. # [15:03] <@surkov> just need to grab my coffee :)
  57. # [15:03] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Sure! :)
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  62. # [15:17] <~davidb> 2015
  63. # [15:17] <~davidb> heyo!
  64. # [15:18] <&MarcoZ> Hi davidb! Happy new year! :)
  65. # [15:18] <~davidb> Happy New Year!
  66. # [15:19] <~davidb> MarcoZ, did you try capti reader?
  67. # [15:19] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Nope, not yet.
  68. # [15:19] <~davidb> ok
  69. # [15:20] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Didn't check work e-mail at all during the holidays, and today, went through all mail and then did some browser testing for surkov.
  70. # [15:20] <~davidb> surkov, did you get a chance to try capti reader?
  71. # [15:20] <~davidb> MarcoZ, real time off is good.
  72. # [15:20] <&MarcoZ> davidb: So definitely!
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  76. # [15:26] <@surkov> nah, I didn’t look at it yet
  77. # [15:30] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I justdidn't see a link in Yevgen's e-mail. In neither of them.
  78. # [15:30] <&MarcoZ> davidb: -just
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  81. # [15:35] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Just found another thing. Just opening a link on a page in Chrome, which causes a new page to load, doesn't cause NVDA to refresh its view. I have to press NVDA+F5 so it refreshes its buffer. So, Chrome doesn't even fire proper events for NVDA to refresh its view of things. I am a bit shocked...
  82. # [15:35] <&MarcoZ> Hi yzen! Happy new year! :)
  83. # [15:35] <@surkov> there are bugs :)
  84. # [15:35] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi you too!
  85. # [15:37] <~davidb> MarcoZ, know any regular Chrome NVDA users?
  86. # [15:38] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Nope. All I see is some geeks testing stuff.
  87. # [15:38] <~davidb> blarg
  88. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> surkov: "There are bugs", yes, but this is so basic that I'd think this would be caught in regular testing...
  89. # [15:42] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Or found with automated tests.
  90. # [15:42] <@surkov> yeah
  91. # [15:43] <~davidb> MarcoZ, I wonder if there are many chromevox users
  92. # [15:45] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I don't expect to. If you look at the latest WebAIM screen reader survey results, the percentage is very low.
  93. # [15:45] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Again, mostly geeks like Victor who test all sorts of stuff, but regular users not many I don't think so.
  94. # [15:45] <&MarcoZ> Besides, ChromeVox is a Chrome extension that plugs directly into all sorts of internal channels it has access to.
  95. # [15:45] <~davidb> This is worse than I understood things to be.
  96. # [15:46] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Here is the link to the survey results: http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey5/#maincontent
  97. # [15:46] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Especially among the blindness community, IE is still holding the strongest marketshare I believe.
  98. # [15:46] <~davidb> yeah i read it a while back
  99. # [15:47] <&MarcoZ> davidb: When it comes to IE alternatives, we are still the leaders in the a11y field, not the followers. :)
  100. # [15:48] <~davidb> Except I lose sleep over e10s.
  101. # [15:48] <&MarcoZ> I know.
  102. # [15:48] <~davidb> 2015 may be hard.
  103. # [15:49] <~davidb> [insert rallying cry here]
  104. # [15:55] <~davidb> BarrierSmash!
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  107. # [15:58] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Want to have an 1:1?
  108. # [15:58] <~davidb> I do!
  109. # [15:58] <~davidb> skype in 2
  110. # [15:58] <&MarcoZ> Me too! I'll just grab a soda and be back.
  111. # [15:58] <~davidb> ok
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  117. # [17:11] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1041070 from --- to FIXED.
  118. # [17:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1041070 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  119. # [17:12] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1041070 from --- to mozilla35.
  120. # [17:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1041070 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — Update `CacheChildren` and `ShutdownChildrenInSubtree` to avoid locking up main thread
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  140. # [20:33] <tbsaunde> davidb: heya
  141. # [20:33] <~davidb> tbsaunde, welcome back
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  159. # [22:49] <~davidb> tbsaunde, bug 1088148 joy again, seems to fail on "ProxyAccessible* outerDoc = mAccessibles.GetEntry(aParentID)->mProxy;"
  160. # [22:49] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1088148 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — [e10s] crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent::AddChildDoc(mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent*,
  161. # [22:50] <tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, was looking at that
  162. # [22:50] <~davidb> oh good
  163. # [22:50] <tbsaunde> seems it only happens on win?
  164. # [22:50] <~davidb> yeah
  165. # [22:51] <tbsaunde> that seems strange
  166. # [22:51] <~davidb> so far 100% of reports are win
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  170. # [22:51] <tbsaunde> I wonder if lin / mac reports are getting classified differently for some reason
  171. # [22:52] <~davidb> no reason comes to mind
  172. # [22:53] <tbsaunde> davidb: well, they could maybe somehow have slightly different stack, but seems maybe more likely its a windows specific issue which is rather odd
  173. # [22:54] <~davidb> maybe surkov has ideas
  174. # [22:54] <tbsaunde> maybe plugins somehow? (ugh)
  175. # [22:54] <~davidb> oh maybe
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  178. # [23:23] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1117037.
  179. # [23:23] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1117037 — FIXED, ehsan@mozilla.com — Mark virtual overridden functions as MOZ_OVERRIDE in accessible/
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