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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 07 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  47. # [12:59] <@firebot> dao@mozilla.com cancelled in-litmus? on bug 287743.
  48. # [12:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/287743 — REOPENED, marvelous82@gmail.com — Firefox "back" and "forward" toolbar submenus not keyboard accessible
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  58. # [14:12] <&MarcoZ> Hey I posted to dev.platform and am still alive! ;)
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  62. # [14:26] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1109835 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
  63. # [14:26] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com requested needinfo from loren.p.mc@gmail.com on bug 1109835.
  64. # [14:27] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1109835 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — high contrast mode browser display use document colors windows
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  75. # [15:27] <~davidb> heyo
  76. # [15:27] <~davidb> i love the smell of longdesc in the morning!
  77. # [15:27] <~davidb> not
  78. # [15:28] <slee> "shoot that tag it's VC"!
  79. # [15:28] <Gijs> davidb++
  80. # [15:28] <~davidb> slee, memories of hamburger hill?
  81. # [15:29] <~davidb> slee, was it you that just got a sony phone?
  82. # [15:30] <slee> davidb: yes a Z3 compact running KK. Very nice indeed. Would use flame but some apps I need no there yet :0
  83. # [15:30] <slee> managed to get for £300 unlocked
  84. # [15:30] <~davidb> i'm looking for a new android that is smaller than a nexus 6
  85. # [15:31] <slee> nexus 5 is prolly better than 6 unless you want to go up a grade
  86. # [15:31] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I feel like not advising any more on that longdesc thing than I already did. I hope people will just leave it alone for good.
  87. # [15:32] <~davidb> i want something that will have a long support cycle
  88. # [15:32] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Have you looked at the newest Motorola phones? They are powerful, but small enough in size.
  89. # [15:32] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i'm struggling with what to say. I like your reply, and jet's.
  90. # [15:32] <slee> I looked at Nexus 5, HTC M8 and Sony Z3
  91. # [15:32] <slee> in end decided I wanted small not fablet
  92. # [15:32] <~davidb> motorola makes nexus 6 as well i think
  93. # [15:32] <slee> long rest longdesc
  94. # [15:33] <~davidb> slee, it will never rest
  95. # [15:33] <~davidb> as politicized things don't
  96. # [15:33] <slee> the undead tag
  97. # [15:33] <~davidb> heh
  98. # [15:33] <&MarcoZ> davidb: But we can keep our signal to noise ratio low if we convince powers that be to not pursue this any more and just leave it as is.
  99. # [15:33] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I thought the Nexus phones were made by LGee, not Motorola.
  100. # [15:34] <~davidb> MarcoZ, they were I think, but n6 motorola i think
  101. # [15:35] <&MarcoZ> davidb: OK! But I think the Moto-X or whatever they're called are still smaller than the Nexus 6.
  102. # [15:36] <~davidb> interesting
  103. # [15:37] <slee> davidb: Rich Swar. mention you thought SpeechAPI would land on desktop this year. Is that so?
  104. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Here's the new Moto X, 5.2 inch. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Moto-2nd-generation-Unlocked/dp/B00MWI4LD0/ref=sr_1_3?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1420641385&sr=1-3&keywords=Motorola+Moto
  105. # [15:39] <~davidb> slee, yes i very much hope so.
  106. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> The Moto G 2nd generation is 5 inches, and considerably less powerful.
  107. # [15:39] <slee> \0/
  108. # [15:39] <~davidb> slee, i think speech input is a ways off though.
  109. # [15:39] <slee> sure - that's a bigger problem
  110. # [15:39] <~davidb> slee, as we need an expensive rec backend for that
  111. # [15:40] <slee> davidb: TTS opens up self voicing apps for reading support and other stuff
  112. # [15:42] <~davidb> MarcoZ, hrm the tech specs are not quite as good as n6
  113. # [15:43] <~davidb> and i don't mean screen and res.
  114. # [15:43] <~davidb> which i don't care much about
  115. # [15:44] <slee> davidb: http://www.ubergizmo.com/products/lang/en_us/devices/xperia-z3-compact,moto-x-2014/
  116. # [15:44] <slee> note Z3 is not full HD res - I don't care
  117. # [15:45] <slee> Also Z3 is close to stock Android.
  118. # [15:48] <~davidb> yeah
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  120. # [16:01] <&MarcoZ> I personally would probably go with an N6 despite its size if I had to buy an Android phone, just because of it being stock Android. :)
  121. # [16:02] <&MarcoZ> I don't know, I find the Sony phones weird to the touch.
  122. # [16:02] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i'm tempted. Have you held an N6?
  123. # [16:02] <~davidb> big big big
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  127. # [16:17] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I have not.
  128. # [16:17] <&MarcoZ> I just know that even an iPhone 6 Plus, with 5.5 inch, is too big for my taste. That's why I went for the 4.7 inch iPhone 6 instead.
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  130. # [16:25] <SteveF> davidb: 2015 hello
  131. # [16:25] <~davidb> Happy New Year!
  132. # [16:26] <SteveF> davidb: can you ask MarcoZ to pull his head in - he is speaking too much sense
  133. # [16:26] <~davidb> right?
  134. # [16:41] <SteveF> davidb: thanks!
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  139. # [17:43] <~davidb> eeejay, i'm wondering if this affected you recently? "PSA: Support for building with Visual C++ 2012 removed from Gecko 37"
  140. # [17:44] <~davidb> (with the windows TTS mentorship stuff)
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  144. # [18:04] <@eeejay> davidb: hm.. I'll look into that.
  145. # [18:05] <~davidb> and good morning.
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  160. # [19:38] <ApprenticeX> Hello
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  166. # [19:55] <@yzen> hey eeejay we can meet any time now
  167. # [19:55] <@eeejay> yzen: sweet. i'm ready
  168. # [19:57] <@yzen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Stability%20b2ga11y%20p%3D1&list_id=11819939
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  170. # [19:58] <@yzen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=Stability%20b2ga11y%20p%3D1&sharer_id=458165&list_id=11820495
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