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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jan 19 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  8. # [02:12] <@firebot> kohei.yoshino@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1122889 from Untriaged to Keyboard: Navigation.
  9. # [02:12] <@firebot> kohei.yoshino@gmail.com changed the Product on bug 1122889 from Firefox to Core.
  10. # [02:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122889 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — CSS: input[type=number]:not(:focus) { -moz-appearance:textfield; } breaks tab cycling through field
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  12. # [03:17] <@firebot> jamie@nvaccess.org changed the Status on bug 1122902 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  13. # [03:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122902 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — NVDA screen reader says ‘unknown’ for a control when the More button in the Add-ons Manager is press
  14. # [03:37] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1123163 filed by jamie@nvaccess.org.
  15. # [03:37] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123163 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Hit testing broken on Google Search results page
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  20. # [10:08] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from maxli@maxli.ca on bug 1122857.
  21. # [10:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122857 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — form controls fail to emit TYPE_VIEW_CLICKED events upon state change.
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  23. # [10:24] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1122846.
  24. # [10:24] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122846 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — aria-owns attribute causes Firefox to hang.
  25. # [10:50] <@firebot> New Firefox - Disability Access bug 1123248 filed by faulkner.steve@gmail.com.
  26. # [10:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123248 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — incorrect accessible name calculation - includes hidden content
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  41. # [12:45] <@firebot> gaurav.pruthi88@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 752823 from nobody@mozilla.org to gaurav.pruthi88@gmail.com.
  42. # [12:45] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/752823 — NEW, gaurav.pruthi88@gmail.com — turn nsHTMLLiAccessible::mBullet into raw pointer
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  45. # [14:04] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1122846.
  46. # [14:04] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1122846 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  47. # [14:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122846 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — aria-owns attribute causes Firefox to hang.
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  50. # [14:13] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Hi! I just put together a patch for bug 122902 myself and am going to test it once I've got the new hot compatible Visual Studio community thingie installed and my build system back in shape. Looked at the file, and it seems straight-forward.
  51. # [14:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/122902 — NEW, rginda@hacksrus.com — Add a Close button for tabs in Chatzilla
  52. # [14:13] <&MarcoZ> Ewww, bug 1122902.
  53. # [14:13] <Gijs> MarcoZ: is that really the bug you meant?
  54. # [14:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122902 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — NVDA screen reader says ‘unknown’ for a control when the More button in the Add-ons Manager is press
  55. # [14:13] <Gijs> ah
  56. # [14:13] <Gijs> MarcoZ: sounds good, feel free to flag me for review!
  57. # [14:14] <&MarcoZ> OK!
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  63. # [14:33] <&MarcoZ> Did I ever mention that I hate, hate, hate aria-hidden with a passion?
  64. # [14:36] <&MarcoZ> OK, Firefox build started.
  65. # [14:44] <&MarcoZ> Bah, some sort of "export failed". What is that now?
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  73. # [15:22] <~davidb> heyo!
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  76. # [15:33] <~davidb> surkov, thoughts on bug 1123248?
  77. # [15:33] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123248 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — incorrect accessible name calculation - includes hidden content
  78. # [15:34] <@surkov> davidb: I’ll comment but in general I wouldn’t fix it until we settled up with aria-hidden impl
  79. # [15:34] <~davidb> ok
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  86. # [16:15] <~davidb> MarcoZ, sorry about that - i'm here.
  87. # [16:15] <~davidb> until office wireless fail at least
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  98. # [17:14] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1123360 filed by surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  99. # [17:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123360 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — exclude aria-hidden="true" elements from the tree
  100. # [17:15] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Thanks for your comments! The whole UI confuses me a bit. I think what I want to do is give those specific groupings for the updates and other sub groups their own labels so NVDA can speak the hierarchical information as you move into them. That way, if they are available, they will be spoken once focus moves in there, otherwise not, and keep the over-arching general group to the...
  101. # [17:15] <&MarcoZ> ...general add-on info and description.
  102. # [17:16] <Gijs> MarcoZ: mm... The issue is that I don't think the error/notification stuff is focusable
  103. # [17:16] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: A grouping gets a label so it can communicate what a container of grouped items is about. In html, we would write fieldset and legend, where the legend element is the label for the fieldset, which groups a bunch of related inputs together.
  104. # [17:16] <Gijs> MarcoZ: they're just labels
  105. # [17:17] <Gijs> MarcoZ: either way, I guess I defer to your expertise when it comes to how best to apply aria-markup here. :)
  106. # [17:17] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1122846 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  107. # [17:17] <Gijs> MarcoZ: just wanted to ensure the disabled/updated state and any errors were noticeable to a11y users
  108. # [17:17] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1122846 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  109. # [17:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1122846 — ASSIGNED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — aria-owns attribute causes Firefox to hang.
  110. # [17:17] <Gijs> MarcoZ: I do think that if the add-on is disabled, that should probably be read as part of the name/version/author combination thing (IIRC this is what you put in aria-labelledby, together with the experiment info)
  111. # [17:18] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Yeah if they were read-only textboxes, it would be easier. read-only textboxes are still tabable, you just can't write into them. See the old Page Info dialog as an example.
  112. # [17:19] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Much of that information is already spoken as part of the list item info in the list of add-ons.
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  114. # [17:19] <Gijs> MarcoZ: hmm. OK, that makes me less sure how valuable it is to have that on the details page, I guess
  115. # [17:20] <Gijs> MarcoZ: OTOH, part of me thinks it's presented together with the name etc. for sighted users, so ARIA should do the same.
  116. # [17:20] <Gijs> then again, that is sometimes not logical :)
  117. # [17:20] * Gijs goes back to deferring to MarcoZ now that it's been flagged up, at least :)
  118. # [17:21] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: I'll look into it further tomorrow and see what I can do or what's logical. This is a good start at least. :)
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  120. # [17:23] <Gijs> MarcoZ: great, thanks for picking this up!
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  158. # [20:15] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from masayuki@d-toybox.com on bug 1105611.
  159. # [20:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1105611 — ASSIGNED, masayuki@d-toybox.com — nsIAccessibleEditableText doesn't support contenteditable editor which has pseudo elements (::before
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