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  1. # Session Start: Tue Feb 24 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  4. # [00:15] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1135908 filed by bugs@pettay.fi.
  5. # [00:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1135908 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [E10s] Proxy for Character/SelectionCount()
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  41. # [08:47] <@firebot> MattN+bmo@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(MattN+bmo@mozilla.com) on bug 1123740.
  42. # [08:47] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123740 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — <treecol> and its label attribute as kids of <listheader> are not represented in the accessible tree
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  55. # [11:00] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Yay!
  56. # [11:11] <Gijs> yeah, sorry to have messed up the initial landing
  57. # [11:11] <Gijs> let's hope it sticks this time
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  61. # [11:35] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: That reminds me that I've still not figured out when you use this and when you use self.
  62. # [11:36] <&MarcoZ> in JS, that is.
  63. # [11:38] <Gijs> MarcoZ: |this| is dynamic, and so if you call a function without calling it "on" an object, it won't be the thing you expect
  64. # [11:38] <Gijs> MarcoZ: so let's say I have an object |foo| with method |bar|
  65. # [11:38] <Gijs> MarcoZ: if I call foo.bar(), I call |bar| on |foo|, and so inside |bar|, |this| will be |foo|
  66. # [11:39] <Gijs> So far so good
  67. # [11:39] <Gijs> MarcoZ: now let's say I do |let x = foo.bar; x(); |
  68. # [11:40] <Gijs> MarcoZ: in this case, |bar| is being called, but not 'on' foo, and so |this| will just be the global scope object (in JSMs, the backstagepass object for the module, in windows, it'll be |window| )
  69. # [11:41] <Gijs> MarcoZ: likewise, if I just define | function blah() { /* do stuff */ } | , even if I do it inside |foo.bar|, the |this| object for that function will be the window if you don't explicitly call it with a different object
  70. # [11:41] <Gijs> MarcoZ: the latter is what happened here - I moved a call from the equivalent of |bar| (which was always called on |foo|) to a separate function inside |bar|'s scope
  71. # [11:42] <Gijs> MarcoZ: that broke the |this| reference, because the function wasn't being called on |foo|, but on 'nothing' (making |this| the global scope object again)
  72. # [11:42] <Gijs> MarcoZ: |self| is actually not a 'thing' in JS - just a convention that people use. We declare |var self = this| inside |bar|, and then functions we call in that scope can refer to |self| to get the |this| of |bar| . Does that make sense? :)
  73. # [11:44] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: I *think* so. Yeah...
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  112. # [15:31] <~davidb> heyo
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  124. # [16:27] <Funktr0n> yzen: you around?
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  126. # [16:38] <@yzen> Funktr0n hey yeah
  127. # [16:39] <Funktr0n> yzen: cool, I saw your note on BZ, but was just wondering if you saw my comment about the updated PR, before the mini-convo with Sam about webIDE
  128. # [16:39] <@yzen> Funktr0n yeah ill take a look shortly
  129. # [16:40] <Funktr0n> okay, sounds good
  130. # [16:40] <@yzen> Funktr0n ill ping you once im done with it
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  132. # [16:40] <Funktr0n> yzen: okay, thanks! :)
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  143. # [17:20] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Saw your comment e the VTT bug. We also still have bug 494175 lying around that is unresolved re the Video element's keyboard accessibility.
  144. # [17:20] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/494175 — ASSIGNED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Make <video> and <audio> controls keyboard navigable
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  155. # [18:07] <~davidb> yeah :/
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  165. # [18:54] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1136241 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
  166. # [18:54] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1136241 — NEW, yzenevich@mozilla.com — [AccessFu] Make sure hints are localizeable.
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  170. # [19:29] <@yzen> Funktr0n hey, haven't actually tried the entry, will try now
  171. # [19:40] <@yzen> Funktr0n so when we change the cursor to the entry field (we don't by default bring up the keyboard) some ui's apps can do that but i don't think it always happens
  172. # [19:42] <Funktr0n> yzen: okay, so just Double Tap to activate then? What happens for the apps that do that automatically (like the search bar on the home screen)?
  173. # [19:42] <@yzen> Funktr0n yeah i think so
  174. # [19:42] <@yzen> Funktr0n so i think in that case the correct behaviour would be to shift focus to the keyboard
  175. # [19:42] <@yzen> and then we'd end up with the key-hint
  176. # [19:42] <@yzen> which is sort of what your original hint implied
  177. # [19:43] <@yzen> Funktr0n but i think it's a bug specific to the keyboard
  178. # [19:43] <Funktr0n> okay, and then those are just bugs that would have to be filed for the individual apps?
  179. # [19:43] <@yzen> Funktr0n probably a keyboard one yeah
  180. # [19:43] <@yzen> we do have apps/keyboard, but i think there's some quirkiness with focus handling there, eeejay worked on it
  181. # [19:44] <Funktr0n> yzen okay, well I'll go ahead and make the change and try to get this Bug wrapped up!
  182. # [19:45] <@yzen> Funktr0n thanks !
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  210. # [21:54] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 492557 from hobinjk@gmail.com to nobody@mozilla.org.
  211. # [21:54] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/492557 — ASSIGNED, nobody@mozilla.org — Create a keyboard shortcut HUD
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  218. # [22:48] <@firebot> ychung@qanalydocs.com requested needinfo from ktucker@qanalydocs.com on bug 1098372.
  219. # [22:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1098372 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu] Cannot enter second keyboard layer when signing into Firefox account
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