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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 10 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:00] <fredw> surkov: I haven't tested it at all yet...
  4. # [00:01] <@surkov> fredw: can you give it a spin?
  5. # [00:02] <fredw> also, I've not updated the test for bug 1001637 (I think you changed Jonathan's mochitest)
  6. # [00:02] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1001637 — NEW, jwei@jonathanwei.ca — Add MathMLTableAccessible and related classes
  7. # [00:02] <@surkov> joanie: is it multi or single process firefox?
  8. # [00:03] <joanie> I thought multi, but how do I check?
  9. # [00:03] <@surkov> it’s running by default in multiprocess firefox, but if there’s AT then it should run in single process. You can force single process firefox by pref
  10. # [00:05] <@surkov> joanie: can you run your test with browser.tabs.remote.autostart.1; turned off
  11. # [00:05] <joanie> sure one sec
  12. # [00:05] <@surkov> and browser.tabs.remote.autostart
  13. # [00:05] <@surkov> I think multiprocess a11y is not yet ready
  14. # [00:06] <joanie> heh, I have a setting which I set apparently
  15. # [00:06] <joanie> browser.tabs.remote.autostart.disabled-because-using-a11y
  16. # [00:06] <joanie> is true
  17. # [00:06] <joanie> I set remote.autostart to true just now
  18. # [00:07] <joanie> I don't see the first one
  19. # [00:07] <joanie> autostart.1
  20. # [00:08] <joanie> surkov: is there another multiprocess setting?
  21. # [00:08] <joanie> I started googling
  22. # [00:08] <joanie> then you mentioned the settings with autostart
  23. # [00:08] <joanie> and I stopped
  24. # [00:08] <fredw> surkov: it's late here in Paris I need to sign off. I think I'll only have time to go back to these patches on Friday.
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  27. # [00:10] <joanie> ok, having googled, the setting I quoted seems to be the multiprocess seting
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  29. # [00:10] <joanie> and it's already disabled
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  31. # [00:34] <@surkov> joanie: so both browser.tabs.remote.autostart are off?
  32. # [00:35] <joanie> I'll triple-triple check, but yeah
  33. # [00:35] <@surkov> ok
  34. # [00:35] <@surkov> I meant “ browser.tabs.remote.autostart” and “ browser.tabs.remote.autostart.1”
  35. # [00:35] <joanie> browser.tabs.remote.autostart is true
  36. # [00:35] <joanie> I don't have that second one
  37. # [00:35] <@surkov> try to make it false
  38. # [00:35] <joanie> instead I have
  39. # [00:36] <joanie> browser.tabs.remote.autostart.disabled-because-using-a11y
  40. # [00:36] <joanie> and it is also true
  41. # [00:36] <joanie> which one false?
  42. # [00:36] <@surkov> 2nd one should let multi a11y run
  43. # [00:36] <@surkov> first one should be false
  44. # [00:36] <joanie> ok
  45. # [00:37] <@surkov> if it it’s multi process Firefox then tab text should be underlyinged
  46. # [00:37] <joanie> it's now false and the bug is still here
  47. # [00:37] <joanie> lots of dead accessibles
  48. # [00:39] <@surkov> ok, just in case tab names are not underlyed? :_
  49. # [00:39] <@surkov> :)
  50. # [00:39] <joanie> I didn't see any, but lemme relaunch and compare
  51. # [00:40] <joanie> and you mean the page tabs, right?
  52. # [00:40] <@surkov> yes
  53. # [00:40] <joanie> right now they are not
  54. # [00:40] <joanie> lemme set it back to true
  55. # [00:40] <@surkov> ok
  56. # [00:41] <joanie> I set it to true and relaunched and I still don't see tab names underlined
  57. # [00:42] <@surkov> I don’t see perf problems on os x, it’s read by vo nice
  58. # [00:43] <joanie> I don't see this problem in epiphany/WebKitGtk either
  59. # [00:43] <@surkov> that’s different I think
  60. # [00:43] <joanie> if I saw it there too, it would suggest something in my platform's layer
  61. # [00:43] <joanie> errr platform
  62. # [00:44] <joanie> not layer
  63. # [00:44] <@surkov> not sure, if it means there’s no problem no platform’s layer
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  65. # [00:44] <@surkov> but maybe unlikely
  66. # [00:44] <@surkov> what dead exactly means?
  67. # [00:45] <joanie> defunct accessible
  68. # [00:45] <@surkov> ok
  69. # [00:46] <joanie> I don't know if that means you're giving us dead accessibles, or some timeout is occurring and AT-SPI2 is giving up
  70. # [00:47] <joanie> btw, I need to run to the pharmacy, but then I'll be back
  71. # [00:48] <@surkov> DOMi also seems working, that should be something linux specific
  72. # [00:48] <@surkov> sure
  73. # [00:49] <@surkov> not sure I have good ideas how to puzzle out it
  74. # [00:52] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com requested needinfo from tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org on bug 1141220.
  75. # [00:52] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141220 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Incredibly long load time and "dead" accessible objects seen with certain sites
  76. # [00:53] <@surkov> can you traverse the hierarchy?
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  79. # [01:15] <joanie> surkov: sorry, just got back. Traverse it when/how?
  80. # [01:15] <joanie> after page load?
  81. # [01:15] <@surkov> yeah, after that long timeout
  82. # [01:15] <joanie> dunno. lemme try
  83. # [01:17] <@surkov> I just curious if that’s all about eventing or there’s real broken tree
  84. # [01:17] <joanie> when the page is local (saved entire web page), the bug doesn't occur
  85. # [01:17] <@surkov> and it’s quite strange
  86. # [01:18] <joanie> the problem in terms of traversal is that I don't read hungarian
  87. # [01:18] <joanie> but I'll do my best to see if all the tree seems to be present
  88. # [01:18] <@surkov> sure, that’s what I did in DOMi :)
  89. # [01:19] <joanie> i see a section with 9214 children
  90. # [01:19] <joanie> but haven't yet been able to expand it in accerciser
  91. # [01:19] * joanie waits
  92. # [01:20] <joanie> those objects so far are not "dead"
  93. # [01:20] <@surkov> good
  94. # [01:20] <@surkov> so there’s something wrong with events
  95. # [01:20] <joanie> and they have text
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  102. # [02:33] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1001634 from --- to FIXED.
  103. # [02:33] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1001634 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  104. # [02:33] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to fixed on bug 1001634.
  105. # [02:33] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1001634 from --- to mozilla39.
  106. # [02:33] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1001634 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Add MathMLAccessible class
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  109. # [03:04] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1141228 from --- to FIXED.
  110. # [03:04] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1141228 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  111. # [03:04] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to fixed on bug 1141228.
  112. # [03:04] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1141228 from --- to mozilla39.
  113. # [03:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141228 — FIXED, mhabicher@mozilla.com — Include GfxMessageUtils.h in PDocAccessible.ipdl
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  116. # [04:27] <@firebot> janus926@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1137906 from nobody@mozilla.org to janus926@gmail.com.
  117. # [04:27] <@firebot> janus926@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1137906 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  118. # [04:27] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1137906 — ASSIGNED, janus926@gmail.com — [Accessibility] crash during FxA login with screen reader on - mozilla::a11y::xpcAccessible::GetSta
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  135. # [08:58] <@firebot> xshen@mozilla.com requested needinfo from tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org on bug 1092845.
  136. # [08:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1092845 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in @0x0 | mozilla::a11y::xpcAccessibleValue::GetMinimumValue(double*)
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  186. # [16:21] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1141570 filed by ntim007@yahoo.it.
  187. # [16:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141570 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] Switching back to default theme from High contrast theme leaves a black scrollbar
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  202. # [17:17] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1141607 filed by ntim007@yahoo.it.
  203. # [17:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141607 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — outline-color doesn't adapt to high contrast colors (it's always black in h-c themes)
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  206. # [17:47] <Zunino> I'm building a custom component which contains, among other elements, a standard input element. I have added a tabindex="0" attribute/value to the component's container (a 'div' element) and tabindex="-1" to its internal input element.
  207. # [17:48] <Zunino> The idea is that the tab navigation should occur at the component level, i.e., if the user tabs onto my component than presses tab once again, focus should be moved to the next focusable component.
  208. # [17:49] <Zunino> At least that's what I understand from the ARIA practices document.
  209. # [17:51] <Zunino> The expected behavior for the component is that its internal input element should gain keyboard focus when the component itself receives focus.
  210. # [17:52] <Zunino> Think of a lookup component where the user will type in some keys and corresponding suggestions will be displayed under the input field, for the user to choose.
  211. # [17:58] <Zunino> Any suggestions on how I should handle focus in such situations?
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  238. # [20:38] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 1141570 from Disability Access APIs to Widget: Win32.
  239. # [20:38] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141570 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] Switching back to default theme from High contrast theme leaves a black scrollbar
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  252. # [22:01] <Zunino> I wonder if my messages can be seen and, if so, whether I'm in the right place for questions such as the ones I asked before.
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  259. # [22:09] <aprilmorone> I have a group I created tht isn't yet active called contributors with disabilities
  260. # [22:09] <aprilmorone> #contributors_with_disabilities
  261. # [22:09] <aprilmorone> That I also head.
  262. # [22:09] <aprilmorone> May I be allowed to have a mailing forum for this group?
  263. # [22:10] <aprilmorone> and apply updates on my MozillaWiki page for this, as well?
  264. # [22:10] <aprilmorone> it is on IRC, already.
  265. # [22:10] <aprilmorone> though not on FB as the regular #contributors IRC chat is.
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  270. # [22:19] <@firebot> mats@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 1141465 from General to Disability Access APIs.
  271. # [22:19] <@firebot> mats@mozilla.com changed the Product on bug 1141465 from Firefox to Core.
  272. # [22:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1141465 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in nsIPresShell::GetRootScrollFrameAsScrollable() const
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  291. # [23:39] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1140917 from --- to FIXED.
  292. # [23:39] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1140917 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  293. # [23:39] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to fixed on bug 1140917.
  294. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1140917 from --- to mozilla39.
  295. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1140900 from --- to FIXED.
  296. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1140900 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  297. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to fixed on bug 1140900.
  298. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1140900 from --- to mozilla39.
  299. # [23:40] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1140900 — FIXED, bugs@pettay.fi — IPC Proxy for ScrollSubstringTo*
  300. # [23:40] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1140917 — FIXED, bugs@pettay.fi — IPC Proxy for replace/insert/copy/cut/delete/paste
  301. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1140895 from --- to FIXED.
  302. # [23:40] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1140895 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  303. # [23:41] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to fixed on bug 1140895.
  304. # [23:41] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1140895 from --- to mozilla39.
  305. # [23:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1140895 — FIXED, bugs@pettay.fi — IPC Proxy for get/set/add/remove Selection
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  311. # Session Close: Wed Mar 11 00:00:00 2015

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