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  1. # Session Start: Tue Mar 31 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
  3. # [00:18] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1149329 filed by wkocher@mozilla.com.
  4. # [00:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149329 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — states/test_link.html and states/test_popup.xul are permafailing on OSX and most Windows versions on
  5. # [00:20] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1149329.
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  42. # [09:26] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1149415 filed by jamie@nvaccess.org.
  43. # [09:26] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149415 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Inline embedded object with no text breaks line offsets
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  67. # [11:26] <@firebot> kechen@mozilla.com requested needinfo from schien@mozilla.com on bug 1148313.
  68. # [11:26] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1148313 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [ScreenReader] Highlight box rendering problem while scrolling the screen
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  85. # [13:48] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com requested needinfo from dao@mozilla.com on bug 1149329.
  86. # [13:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149329 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — states/test_link.html and states/test_popup.xul are permafailing on OSX and most Windows versions on
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  93. # [14:05] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1137748.
  94. # [14:05] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1137748 — ASSIGNED, mzehe@mozilla.com — Add and adjust roles, sub roles, and role descriptions, to be in line with WebKit's exposed stuff
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  105. # [14:54] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1149118 from --- to FIXED.
  106. # [14:55] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1149118 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  107. # [14:55] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1149118.
  108. # [14:55] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1149118 from --- to mozilla40.
  109. # [14:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149118 — FIXED, mzehe@mozilla.com — Expose radio groups with the correct role on OS X
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  114. # [15:34] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Regarding my question in bug 1137748: Does RoleMapEntry->ARIARoleString() help me? http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/base/ARIAMap.h#147
  115. # [15:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1137748 — ASSIGNED, mzehe@mozilla.com — Add and adjust roles, sub roles, and role descriptions, to be in line with WebKit's exposed stuff
  116. # [15:34] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Oops sorry, hi!
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  119. # [15:39] <@surkov> MarcoZ: hey
  120. # [15:39] <@surkov> helps for what?
  121. # [15:40] <@surkov> oh, you can do that
  122. # [15:42] <@surkov> MarcoZ: however I’m not sure how you want to use it
  123. # [15:42] <@surkov> I mean why you need to convert atoms into strings
  124. # [15:48] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1137748.
  125. # [15:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1137748 — ASSIGNED, mzehe@mozilla.com — Add and adjust roles, sub roles, and role descriptions, to be in line with WebKit's exposed stuff
  126. # [15:52] <&MarcoZ> surkov: For the string conversion. I need to search the map, but can't do it like you said since one is an nsIAtom*, the other is a String.
  127. # [15:53] <&MarcoZ> surkov: So I want to repoace the nsIAtom* tokens in the map with NSString*, like you did in the RoleDescrMap.
  128. # [15:53] <&MarcoZ> And use strings instead of nsIAtom*. The only place where I need a string returned is where I ask the GeckoAccessible's ARIAMap for its role string.
  129. # [15:56] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Just read your comment and now my head is spinning... I *hate* these *, **, & and whatever else symbols stupid C has for strings... Like I said... This was my downfall during my computer sciences classes. *laughs helplessly*
  130. # [15:57] <&MarcoZ> surkov: I can implement it the way you did, but don't expect me to know what I'm doing, then. ;)
  131. # [15:57] <&MarcoZ> s/you did/you suggested/
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  139. # [16:31] <joanie> surkov: we've scheduled the 2015 web engines hackfest (Dec 7-9). When should we start the visa process? :)
  140. # [16:32] <@surkov> joanie: probably it’s time :)
  141. # [16:32] <joanie> ha!
  142. # [16:32] <joanie> seriously?
  143. # [16:33] <@surkov> I would have at least 3 months prior to the event, but it seems nothing prevents us to make it earlier
  144. # [16:33] <joanie> ok
  145. # [16:33] <joanie> then that is what we'll do
  146. # [16:33] <@surkov> k
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  153. # [17:04] <&marcoz> surkov: So I am struggling with these pointers, as expected. Do I need to make all nsIAtom thingies in this new code nsIAtom**, including that in the comparator?
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  155. # [17:05] <@surkov> MarcoZ: sounds right
  156. # [17:06] <&marcoz> surkov: OK let me try this. Right now it gives me compiler errors.
  157. # [17:12] <Gijs> marcoz: can you remind me what the "presentational table" algorithm is?
  158. # [17:12] * Gijs vaguely recalls something relating to the use of <th> and/or number of columns/rows
  159. # [17:13] <Gijs> (I'll take weblinks!)
  160. # [17:14] <&marcoz> Gijs: htmlTableAccessible.cpp, and in there is something related to LayoutTable. I keep forgetting the method name. The algo is in there and slightly more complicated.
  161. # [17:15] <&marcoz> Gijs: Sorry, in the middle of something, will have to wrestle mxr yourself. ;)
  162. # [17:15] <Gijs> marcoz: thanks!
  163. # [17:15] <Gijs> marcoz: no worries, that's super helpful
  164. # [17:19] <@firebot> dao@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(dao@mozilla.com) on bug 1149329.
  165. # [17:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149329 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — states/test_link.html and states/test_popup.xul are permafailing on OSX and most Windows versions on
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  167. # [17:23] <&marcoz> surkov: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8827709
  168. # [17:24] <@surkov> MarcoZ: mRole == aEntry.role
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  170. # [17:36] <&marcoz> surkov: OK so how do I have to write the following statement now with the changed nsIAtom** thing? nsIAtom* ariaRole = *(mGeckoAccessible->ARIARoleMap()->roleAtom);
  171. # [17:36] <&marcoz> surkov: because that's the error I get that the ariaRole argument is of an invalid type.
  172. # [17:36] <&marcoz> surkov: Also, it complains about nsIAtom** vs. const nsIAtom** in the struct and comparator above not really matching.
  173. # [17:37] <@surkov> MarcoZ: I think you can deal with nsIAtom** and add const if it’s needed
  174. # [17:38] <@surkov> I mean your struct can have const nsIAtom** role
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  176. # [17:38] <@surkov> and you can do nsIAtom** ariaRole = mGeckoAccessible->ARIARoleMap()->roleAtom;
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  179. # [17:43] <@surkov> MarcoZ: btw, mRole == aEntry.role doesn’t work
  180. # [17:43] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
  181. # [17:45] <&marcoz> surkov: So I am noticing.
  182. # [17:46] <@surkov> :)
  183. # [17:46] <&marcoz> surkov: How do we do it, then?
  184. # [17:46] <@surkov> either forget about BinarySearch or compare strings instead aka DependentAtomString
  185. # [17:49] <&marcoz> surkov: nsDependentAtomString can be used normally, right? I'll try that.
  186. # [17:50] <@surkov> it should be, it doesn’t involve string copy
  187. # [17:51] <&marcoz> OK, joggling around stuff. Thanks!
  188. # [17:51] <@surkov> MarcoZ: look at aria::GetRoleMap(nsINode* aNode)
  189. # [17:51] <@surkov> it has what you need
  190. # [17:51] <@surkov> I guess it even makes sense to reuse the code
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  192. # [17:52] <@surkov> or just copy if you like
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  194. # [18:00] <&marcoz> surkov: OK, thanks for the pointer! I will do that tomorrow and get back to you hopefully with something useful. :)
  195. # [18:00] <@surkov> MarcoZ: cool, thanks!
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  236. # [22:34] <~davidb> surkov, what is the history of event groups? why do we have groups?
  237. # [22:34] <~davidb> if i knew i forget
  238. # [22:34] <@surkov> davidb: it’s for downcasting
  239. # [22:35] <~davidb> where do we need to downcast?
  240. # [22:35] <~davidb> oh hmm
  241. # [22:37] <@surkov> davidb: look for downcast_accEvent
  242. # [22:37] <~davidb> surkov, another topic, do we still turn off plugin sandboxing for jaws?
  243. # [22:38] <@surkov> I don’t really recall, who was working on it?
  244. # [22:38] <~davidb> there was a BIG BUG recently fixed with FF flash and i'd like to revisit our workarounds.
  245. # [22:38] <@firebot> bbajaj@mozilla.com set blocking-b2g to 2.2+ on bug 1147646.
  246. # [22:38] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1147646 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessContentInserted while stability testing
  247. # [22:39] <~davidb> surkov, around bug 1148635 timeframe
  248. # [22:39] <@surkov> cool
  249. # [22:39] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1148635 — NEW, bugs@pettay.fi — Preparations for forwarding AccFooEvents to parent
  250. # [22:39] <~davidb> errr wrong bug :)
  251. # [22:39] <~davidb> bug 599814
  252. # [22:39] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/599814 — WORKSFORME, dbolter@mozilla.com — Some pages like sinclairhoerspiele.de come up with all accessibles unknown and the windows having th
  253. # [22:40] <@surkov> I remember that nasty bug
  254. # [22:40] <@firebot> bbajaj@mozilla.com requested needinfo from dbolter@mozilla.com on bug 1147646.
  255. # [22:41] <~davidb> ditto
  256. # [22:41] <~davidb> surkov, sorry to change topic again... we still create windows per tab right? (https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/ipc/glue/WindowsMessageLoop.cpp#426)
  257. # [22:42] <@surkov> davidb: for some AT
  258. # [22:42] <~davidb> ok
  259. # [22:43] <~davidb> (IsWindowEmulationStarted)
  260. # [22:45] <~davidb> (MaybeStartWindowEmulation)
  261. # [22:47] <~davidb> surkov, that last method^ turns on emulation for e10s for all windows AT AFAICT
  262. # [22:47] <~davidb> (XRE_GetProcessType() == GeckoProcessType_Content)
  263. # [22:48] <@surkov> oh, rihgt
  264. # [22:49] <~davidb> i think i'll file a bug to capture that we need to lesion that for testing
  265. # [22:51] <@surkov> agree
  266. # [22:57] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1149772 filed by dbolter@mozilla.com.
  267. # [22:57] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149772 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Make nsWinUtils::MaybeStartWindowEmulation and related code match our new plan for e10s a11y.
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  270. # [23:08] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from ggrisco@codeaurora.org on bug 1147646.
  271. # [23:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1147646 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessContentInserted while stability testing
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