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  5. # [00:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/646484 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Support IA2 on 64 bit Windows
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  23. # [03:26] <@firebot> lhenry@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to affected on bug 1149329.
  24. # [03:26] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149329 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — states/test_link.html and states/test_popup.xul are permafailing on OSX and most Windows versions on
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  58. # [12:45] <@firebot> schien@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(schien@mozilla.com) on bug 1148313.
  59. # [12:45] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1148313 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [ScreenReader] Highlight box rendering problem while scrolling the screen
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  65. # [13:19] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1149787.
  66. # [13:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149787 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — label incorrect for field
  67. # [13:41] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1149787.
  68. # [13:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149787 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — label incorrect for field
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  70. # [13:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149329 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — states/test_link.html and states/test_popup.xul are permafailing on OSX and most Windows versions on
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  87. # [14:29] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from james.nurthen@oracle.com on bug 1149787.
  88. # [14:29] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149787 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — label incorrect for field
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  102. # [15:41] <~davidb> heyo
  103. # [15:43] <~davidb> surkov, not sure what the next step is for bug 606080
  104. # [15:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/606080 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — (64bit) fix unique id casting to NS_PTR_TO_INT32 issue
  105. # [15:44] <@surkov> davidb: it needs assginee
  106. # [15:44] <~davidb> i meant the next step for an assignee
  107. # [15:45] <~davidb> another question i guess is who should mentor it
  108. # [15:59] <@firebot> petruta.rasa@softvision.ro changed the Component on bug 1149579 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  109. # [15:59] <@firebot> petruta.rasa@softvision.ro changed the Resolution on bug 1149579 from --- to INVALID.
  110. # [15:59] <@firebot> petruta.rasa@softvision.ro changed the Status on bug 1149579 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  111. # [15:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149579 — INVALID, nobody@mozilla.org — Alt A is performing select all
  112. # [16:03] <@surkov> davidb: it may need some investigations still but I’ve got perception that Andrzei had workable approach. I think Trevor or me can mentor it, I don’t have preferences.
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  114. # [16:04] <~davidb> yeah, i think it would be good to get consensus on the approach
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  117. # [16:04] <~davidb> if we get that then i'm happy :)
  118. # [16:08] <@firebot> robin@reala.net changed the Component on bug 1150510 from Untriaged to Disability Access APIs.
  119. # [16:08] <@firebot> robin@reala.net changed the Product on bug 1150510 from Firefox to Core.
  120. # [16:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150510 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Crash when interacting with Voiceover
  121. # [16:11] <~davidb> surkov, yzen, i'm going to take a short walk for a coffee, you are welcome to join
  122. # [16:12] <~davidb> (drip coffee from a coffee shop)
  123. # [16:12] <@yzen> im in
  124. # [16:12] <@surkov> chat?
  125. # [16:12] <@surkov> I’m not a coffee fan :)
  126. # [16:13] <~davidb> sure
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  128. # [16:40] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1150510.
  129. # [16:40] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150510 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Crash when interacting with Voiceover
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  132. # [16:58] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1150510 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  133. # [16:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150510 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Crash when interacting with Voiceover
  134. # [17:01] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1150510.
  135. # [17:02] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1150510.
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  137. # [17:23] * ~davidb files bug 1150542 about socorro
  138. # [17:23] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150542 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Crash reports do not link to their crash stacks?
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  141. # [17:45] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i forget, do you guys get Monday off?
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  145. # [18:07] <&MarcoZ> davidb|afk: Yes we do.
  146. # [18:08] <&MarcoZ> davidb|afk: So I'll go offline soon and be back on Tuesday.
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  148. # [18:08] <@firebot> james.nurthen@oracle.com cancelled needinfo?(james.nurthen@oracle.com) on bug 1149787.
  149. # [18:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149787 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — label incorrect for field
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  151. # [18:14] <@eeejay> morning
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  155. # [18:36] <joanie> surkov: can you join us for the aria call?
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  159. # [18:58] <@surkov> joanie: still on the call?
  160. # [18:58] <joanie> yes and talking about rowcount *now*
  161. # [18:58] <joanie> can you join?
  162. # [18:58] <@surkov> I’ll try
  163. # [18:58] <joanie> thanks
  164. # [18:58] <joanie> plese
  165. # [18:58] <joanie> please too
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  171. # [19:03] <@surkov> joanie: it looks like there’s no free call room here
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  176. # [19:34] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1149787 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  177. # [19:35] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1149787 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — label incorrect for field
  178. # [19:35] <@yzen> eeejay ping
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  181. # [19:36] <@eeejay> yzen: hey
  182. # [19:36] <@yzen> eeejay hey, I wanted to run by you something
  183. # [19:36] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1150510.
  184. # [19:36] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150510 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Crash [@ nsStringBundle::GetStringFromName(char16_t const*, char16_t**) ]
  185. # [19:37] <@eeejay> shoot
  186. # [19:38] <~davidb> surkov, yzen, https://archive.org/details/PeterAndTheWolf_753
  187. # [19:38] <@yzen> we have a content integration test that tests focus event on element that is aria-hidden; surkov has a patch for aria-hidden i m looking at, where the tree gets detached, so if you get focus on aria-hidden element, it will not be able to find next sibling and resolve to the parent
  188. # [19:38] <@surkov> davidb: you got me
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  190. # [19:39] <~davidb> wow this brings back memories
  191. # [19:39] <@yzen> eeejay im almost convinced that our test tests author's mistake
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  194. # [19:42] <@eeejay> yzen: i thought surkov was convinced that was a bad idea
  195. # [19:42] <@yzen> eeejay which part ?
  196. # [19:42] <@surkov> not sure I follow
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  198. # [19:44] <@eeejay> one sec
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  201. # [20:06] <@eeejay> yzen: i think there is a bigger problem. could i call?
  202. # [20:06] <@yzen> sure
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  205. # [20:47] <@yzen> eeejay hey
  206. # [20:47] <@eeejay> yzen: yo
  207. # [20:48] <@yzen> eeejay so surkov and I chatted about the aria-hidden stuff, it looks like the patch is actually what orca (and voice over) want e.g. detaching aria-hidden subtree
  208. # [20:49] <@yzen> eeejay afaik there are 2 aria-hidden things that we care about and I think surkov and have a reasonable approach:
  209. # [20:52] <@yzen> eeejay so the 2 things we care about: 1) when we are in the subtree that is getting hidden with aria hidden, we want to move to next accessible based on either sibling or parent of aria-hidden root 2) when we want to focus on aria-hidden subtree we want to move to next accessible based on either sibling or parent of aria-hidden root
  210. # [20:52] <@yzen> eeejay does that look right ?
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  214. # [21:07] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jamie@nvaccess.org on bug 1123360.
  215. # [21:07] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123360 — NEW, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — exclude aria-hidden="true" elements from the tree
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  218. # [21:17] <@eeejay> yzen: yes
  219. # [21:17] <@eeejay> yzen: sorry, was at lunch
  220. # [21:22] <@yzen> eeejay no worries
  221. # [21:24] <@yzen> so a possible solution that can satisfy everyone could be: as the recent patch we detach the subtree on aria-hidden=true. we also fire hide event when that happens so we have access to target's siblings; we also have a previous and next sibling relation even for the root of the detached subtree
  222. # [21:24] <@yzen> eeejay ^
  223. # [21:27] <@eeejay> yzen: yes. if we had access to an nsIAccessibleHideEvent iface, all would be good.
  224. # [21:28] <@yzen> eeejay ok
  225. # [21:29] <@eeejay> yzen: and it would potentially simplify our life
  226. # [21:30] <@yzen> eeejay yeah
  227. # [21:30] <@yzen> eeejay also fyi, hidden attribute is now propagated to subtree
  228. # [21:33] <@eeejay> yzen: to detached subtree? :)
  229. # [21:34] <@yzen> eeejay in master
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  232. # [21:49] <@firebot> jdiggs@igalia.com cancelled needinfo?(jdiggs@igalia.com) on bug 1123360.
  233. # [21:49] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123360 — NEW, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — exclude aria-hidden="true" elements from the tree
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