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  1. # Session Start: Thu Apr 09 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  19. # [02:45] <@yzen> Funktr0n hey, are you still there?
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  48. # [09:14] <@firebot> gingerbread_man@live.com changed the Component on bug 1150311 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
  49. # [09:14] <@firebot> gingerbread_man@live.com changed the Status on bug 1150311 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  50. # [09:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1150311 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — "Warn me when websites try to redirect or reload the page" should work for HTTP status code 301, 302
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  71. # [14:28] <marcoZ_test> Testing Irccloud. Works quite OK so far.
  72. # [14:34] <&MarcoZ> marcoZ_test: Interesting!
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  75. # [14:56] <marcoZ_test> Whoohoo and works great on iOS, too!
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  86. # [15:19] <&MarcoZ> Yay, this works!
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  90. # [15:37] <~davidb> heyo
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  93. # [15:38] <&MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
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  96. # [15:38] <~davidb> hi hi hi
  97. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> davidb: FYI: I'm now chatting via IrcCloud. Both the web interface and the iOS app are very accessible.
  98. # [15:39] <~davidb> cool
  99. # [15:39] <~davidb> are you going to leave yourself in channel when away?
  100. # [15:39] <&MarcoZ> Yup, ServiceNow folks were also quite fast in activating my account.
  101. # [15:40] <&MarcoZ> Yes, I'll remain in channel when away.
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  103. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> And I hope I won't forget to set my away status too often. ;)
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  117. # [16:01] <~davidb> yzen, MarcoZ, are these bugs different? bug 907737 bug 1090288 (if so should we change the summary for one of them?)
  118. # [16:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/907737 — NEW — Add the screen reader simulator accessibility add-on to the toolbox
  119. # [16:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1090288 — NEW — Add the screen reader simulator accessibility add-on to the default WebIDE toolbox.
  120. # [16:01] <~davidb> firebot: fortune?
  121. # [16:01] <@firebot> To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism -- to steal from many is research.
  122. # [16:03] <@yzen> davidb sort of , i think if the former one is implemented the latter one would be practically done
  123. # [16:03] <~davidb> so could the latter depend on the former?
  124. # [16:03] <~davidb> or should one be closed?
  125. # [16:03] <~davidb> or?
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  127. # [16:08] <@yzen> i tihnk yes lets make it a dependent, im not entirely sure if tools are packaged differently in webide from desktop
  128. # [16:09] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 1152792 from Developer Tools to Disability Access APIs.
  129. # [16:10] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Product on bug 1152792 from Firefox to Core.
  130. # [16:10] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1152792 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [meta] Help web developers build the web for everyone
  131. # [16:10] <~davidb> moved that just for admin reasons ^
  132. # [16:15] <~davidb> MarcoZ, have you noticed the reader list in nightly?
  133. # [16:15] <~davidb> (desktop)
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  136. # [16:48] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Sort of, but I am confused by this feature. First, the reading list side bar itself can be found easily in the Bookmarks menu.
  137. # [16:49] <&MarcoZ> davidb: But adding a page to the reading list can only be done through a button near the address bar, no keyboard equivalent.
  138. # [16:49] <~davidb> I wonder if Gijs has more insight.
  139. # [16:50] <~davidb> I haven't followed the feature work.
  140. # [16:50] <&MarcoZ> davidb: And, there is another button called "Reader View". But when I click that, I don't get the current page in reader view mode, but only some controls at the top below the page title that allow me to change the font, size, color and some other things, but the article itself is not reformatted or presented to me.
  141. # [16:50] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I tried out this page: http://www.heise.de/mac-and-i/meldung/1Password-fuer-Mac-generiert-Einmal-Passwoerter-2596987.html
  142. # [16:50] <~davidb> same.
  143. # [16:51] <~davidb> this works https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/04/mobile-game-development-with-the-device-orientation-and-vibration-apis/
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  147. # [16:58] <&MarcoZ> davidb|afk: Confirmed. Filing a bug for the Heise pages. This affects all their articles.
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  150. # [17:03] <~davidb> MarcoZ, yeah, Pocket (addon) has no trouble with them.
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  152. # [17:13] <&MarcoZ> davidb: The Firefox for iOS reader mode also has no problem with them. ;)
  153. # [17:14] <~davidb> cool
  154. # [17:26] <Gijs> MarcoZ: there is meant to be a menu equivalent for "add to reading list"
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  156. # [17:27] <Gijs> MarcoZ: fwiw, reader mode with the heise.de article wfm, so I'm not sure why you can't see the page itself...
  157. # [17:27] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Where? I don't find it in the current nightly in the standard menu system.
  158. # [17:27] <Gijs> MarcoZ: asking around...
  159. # [17:31] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: Just added the resulting HTML to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1152817
  160. # [17:31] <@firebot> Bug 1152817 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Reader View fails on article pages of the German Heise Online IT news site
  161. # [17:35] <Gijs> MarcoZ: wfm on 38 beta...
  162. # [17:35] <Gijs> MarcoZ: see questions in the bug
  163. # [17:37] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: I'm on Nightly.
  164. # [17:37] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: The Hacks article davidb provided above works fine for me, too.
  165. # [17:42] <&MarcoZ> Gijs: And confirmed in today's Nightly build as well.
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  173. # [18:38] <Gijs> MarcoZ: so I can't reproduce the heise.de thing in a clean profile, but I can in one of my regular trunk profiles...
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  175. # [18:43] <Gijs> MarcoZ: but that profile seems to also reproduce the problem back when nightly was still 39 :s
  176. # [18:43] <~davidb> interesting
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  179. # [18:51] <Gijs> MarcoZ: ergh, forgot to CC you, but filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1152860 for the "add to reading list" issue
  180. # [18:51] <@firebot> Bug 1152860 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Add a menuitem in the reading list submenu to add the current page to reading list
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  199. # [20:00] <~davidb> time to translocate
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  222. # [23:37] <Funktr0n> eeejay, you there?
  223. # [23:37] <eeejay> Funktr0n: howdy
  224. # [23:37] <eeejay> Funktr0n: did you see that bug i copied you on?
  225. # [23:39] <Funktr0n> eeejay: yeah, that's just what I was about to ask you about... is that the progression from what we were talking about last week? Having AccesFu fire a 'change' event when aria-valuenow changes?
  226. # [23:39] <eeejay> Funktr0n: yes
  227. # [23:39] <eeejay> Funktr0n: yzen and i discussed it
  228. # [23:40] <eeejay> Funktr0n: the basic idea is if there is either a value change event, or a name change event, it needs to get pumped through our live region presentation path
  229. # [23:42] <Funktr0n> eeejay: okay cool, that should make this browser bug's solution a little more elegant for sure.
  230. # [23:42] <Funktr0n> eeejay: as far as getting this implemented, is that logic solely in javascript or does this touch the C++ stuff also?
  231. # [23:43] <eeejay> Funktr0n: yeah, it is almost all in EventsManager.jsm
  232. # [23:43] <eeejay> Funktr0n: just look at how text added removed hide/show checks for live regions and add that to name/value change
  233. # [23:43] <eeejay> Funktr0n: if you think you could tackle it, take the bug
  234. # [23:44] <eeejay> What is wrong today? It is afternoon in Seattle, MarcoZ is still on, but all of toronto is gone
  235. # [23:45] <Funktr0n> eeejay: okay, yeah I was thinking I'd take a look at it. I've been super busy all week getting ready for the move (even sold my car! Didn't think I was going to do that last week, haha). I should have time this weekend though so I'll get into it then
  236. # [23:46] <eeejay> wowza, congrats\
  237. # [23:46] <Funktr0n> thanks! It's all pretty exciting :)
  238. # [23:50] <Funktr0n> eeejay: also, had tried to get yzen's attention yesterday but we missed each other... maybe you could give some quick insight. On Bug 1135233 I've been having a little back-n-forth with kgrandon about getting a patch landed despite CSSLint producing an error on commit
  239. # [23:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1135233 — NEW, bugzilla@imross.com — [Accessibility] Utility tray statusbar-tray is inaccessible.
  240. # [23:51] <Funktr0n> eeejay: if you have a chance to take a look at the comment thread on that bug, is there anything else I should do as far as offering up a workaround, or does it look like there's a resolution-in-waiting that just might take a little time
  241. # [23:52] <Funktr0n> eeejay: I guess I'm just trying to get the patch landed sooner rather than later, so whatever advice you have would be good
  242. # [23:53] <eeejay> Funktr0n: looks like you need to just add it to xfail.list, no?
  243. # [23:53] * Quits: SteveF (chatzilla@moz-80j6qs.cable.virginm.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
  244. # [23:54] <Funktr0n> eeejay: yeah, that's what I'm thinking based on the other bug... but that other bug is pretty old so I'm unsure if I should do that or if there's something else kgrandon might have in mind...
  245. # [23:56] * Joins: SteveF (chatzilla@moz-80j6qs.cable.virginm.net)
  246. # Session Close: Fri Apr 10 00:00:00 2015

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