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  98. # [15:33] <~davidb> heyo
  99. # [15:50] <~davidb> MarcoZ, yeah we'll be using sched for whistler
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  102. # [16:02] <~davidb> MarcoZ, is embedding a tweet an a11y no-no?
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  105. # [16:51] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Hi! Nope, embedding a tweet is not a problem.
  106. # [16:52] <~davidb> thanks
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  111. # [17:12] <~davidb> windows 10 seems to instantiate a11y in FF
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  114. # [17:15] <~davidb> surkov, tbsaunde, MarcoZ, windows 10 public beta seems to instantiate a11y in FF
  115. # [17:15] * ~davidb continues trying stuff
  116. # [17:15] * @surkov curious if windows 10 works ok without a11y
  117. # [17:16] <~davidb> Confirm close dialog fails
  118. # [17:19] <~davidb> force disabling a11y doesn't seem to interfere so far... onscreen keyboard works.
  119. # [17:19] <~davidb> (FF nightly)
  120. # [17:20] <~davidb> but i can't say for sure if the auto-appearance of the onscreen keyboard is broken... not sure of expected behaviour yet
  121. # [17:20] <~davidb> (in IE it didn't auto appear for the location bar either so...)
  122. # [17:22] <~davidb> i wonder if for windows 10 we should introduce a whitelist only a11y approach
  123. # [17:22] * ~davidb sighs
  124. # [17:24] <~davidb> worried about the lambs that follow benchmarks that we slow.
  125. # [17:29] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Amazing! I obviously didn't know, because it *always* instanciates for me. :)
  126. # [17:30] <~davidb> :)
  127. # [17:30] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1163004 filed by dbolter@mozilla.com.
  128. # [17:30] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163004 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Windows 10 instantiates accessibility
  129. # [17:30] <&MarcoZ> davidb: The worse thing is, with e10s on, if you have multiple tabs open, then close them all, the Firefox process might keep hanging on. It at least does with NVDA if I circumvent the auto-disabling of a11y for it.
  130. # [17:31] <~davidb> that might be fixed
  131. # [17:31] <~davidb> let me know if that doesn't go away
  132. # [17:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: when does it ship?
  133. # [17:42] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Sent you mail.
  134. # [17:42] <&MarcoZ> tbsaunde: I hear July.
  135. # [17:43] <@tbsaunde> ok hrm
  136. # [17:46] <~davidb> that might be a confidential rumour or something
  137. # [17:46] <&MarcoZ> surkov: Heard anything from FS yet re 64-bit? I see they do have a 64 bit version of the FSDomNodeFirefox.dll for both JAWS 15 and 16 installed, so they do, in theory, support us in 64-bit mode.
  138. # [17:47] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Dunno, I thought I read it in the press somewhere the other day.
  139. # [17:47] <~davidb> ok phew
  140. # [17:47] <@surkov> MarcoZ: yes, checking the assumption with them
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  142. # [17:52] <~davidb> MarcoZ, which h/w do you prefer?
  143. # [17:53] <~davidb> i
  144. # [17:53] <~davidb> i
  145. # [17:53] <~davidb> sorry, i'll loop jlin in i think
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  147. # [17:58] <&MarcoZ> davidb|afk: I certainly prefer the higher end one. :)
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  150. # [18:19] <~davidb> heh
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  152. # [19:15] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1162543 from --- to FIXED.
  153. # [19:15] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1162543 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  154. # [19:15] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1162543.
  155. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1162543 from --- to mozilla40.
  156. # [19:16] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1162543 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — fixup getting accessibles from ids
  157. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1159850 from --- to FIXED.
  158. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1159850 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  159. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1159850.
  160. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1159850 from --- to mozilla40.
  161. # [19:16] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1159850 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — make ia2Accessiblevalue use proxies
  162. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1159828 from --- to FIXED.
  163. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1159828 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  164. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1159828.
  165. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1159828 from --- to mozilla40.
  166. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1159741 from --- to FIXED.
  167. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1159741 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  168. # [19:16] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1159741.
  169. # [19:17] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1159741 from --- to mozilla40.
  170. # [19:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1159828 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — make ia2Hyperlink use proxies
  171. # [19:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1159741 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — make ia2HyperText use proxies
  172. # [19:17] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1156964 from --- to FIXED.
  173. # [19:17] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1156964 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  174. # [19:17] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox40 to fixed on bug 1156964.
  175. # [19:17] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1156964 from --- to mozilla40.
  176. # [19:17] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1156964 — FIXED, bugs@pettay.fi — orca reads window title on every tab in e10s
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  180. # [19:50] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1163070 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  181. # [19:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163070 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — fix AtkHyperlinkImpl::getHyperlink after bug 1146518
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  183. # [19:52] <@firebot> vdjeric@mozilla.com requested needinfo from vdjeric@mozilla.com on bug 1163004.
  184. # [19:52] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163004 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Windows 10 instantiates accessibility
  185. # [19:56] * ~davidb translocates
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  187. # [20:04] <@tbsaunde> surkov: can you do that review today? its trivial and text is really screwed up with orca :(
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  201. # [21:24] <smaug> eeejay: ping
  202. # [21:24] <smaug> +NS_IMPL_CYCLE_COLLECTION(nsSpeechTask, mSpeechSynthesis, mUtterance, mCallback); ?
  203. # [21:25] <smaug> I see... that shouldn't be needed actually
  204. # [21:27] <smaug> hmm
  205. # [21:27] <smaug> wait
  206. # [21:27] <smaug> don't understand now
  207. # [21:27] <@eeejay> smaug: adding that fixed a leak
  208. # [21:28] <smaug> right
  209. # [21:28] <smaug> eeejay: I was relying on the comment in .idl to be right
  210. # [21:29] <@eeejay> smaug: nsFakeSynthCallback holds a ref to nsSpeechTask
  211. # [21:29] <smaug> but you actually change the meaning of nsISpeechTaskCallback
  212. # [21:29] <smaug> it isn't anymore an interface implemented by a service
  213. # [21:30] <@eeejay> not by the actual service, but the service creates an instance of one
  214. # [21:31] <@eeejay> smaug: in the pico service we have a similar setup, its just not a hard ref
  215. # [21:31] <@eeejay> maybe it should be..
  216. # [21:32] <@eeejay> oh that comment is not well written
  217. # [21:33] <smaug> I'll comment in the bug
  218. # [21:33] <smaug> I guess the comment in .idl needs to be changed
  219. # [21:35] <smaug> eeejay: why the commented out part in nsFakeSynthServices::Observe?
  220. # [21:37] <@eeejay> smaug: oops, was supposed to comment that back in..
  221. # [21:37] <smaug> eeejay: +#ifdef MOZ_WEBRTC ?
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  223. # [21:38] <@eeejay> smaug: someone else added that to web speech code for some reason. or was that an early mistake? need to blame..
  224. # [21:38] <smaug> ah, it is some old stuff..
  225. # [21:39] <smaug> but I don't see this new stuff relying on MOZ_WEBRTC
  226. # [21:39] <@eeejay> smaug: fair enough. i'll remove that
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  228. # [21:40] <@eeejay> btw, i needed to change test_interfaces.html since i made mochitest profiles enable speech synth by default
  229. # [21:40] <smaug> hmm
  230. # [21:41] <smaug> bz did some changes to test_interfaces.html recently
  231. # [21:41] <smaug> I can't now recall exactly what...
  232. # [21:41] <smaug> except removed probably prefs
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  234. # [21:41] <smaug> but the idea is that test_interfaces.html would map more correctly to what we actually ship
  235. # [21:41] <smaug> eeejay: is(chosenVoice, expectedUri, "Incorrect URI is used"); ?
  236. # [21:42] <smaug> how is that related to the bug?
  237. # [21:43] <smaug> oh, we do have if (voices[i].voiceURI == aUri) in the old code
  238. # [21:44] <@eeejay> yeah
  239. # [21:45] <@eeejay> maybe speech synth should be preffed on my default..
  240. # [21:46] <@eeejay> the windows patch may land soonish, and other platforms could simply return an empty list of voices until we get it working there.
  241. # [21:48] <smaug> well, the API must actually work before being enabled
  242. # [21:49] * smaug can't recall if test_interfaces.html can deal with different OSes
  243. # [21:50] <smaug> I mean, after the recent changes to test_interfaces
  244. # [21:53] <@eeejay> smaug: so flattening those tests might be a bad idea? I could give up on that for now
  245. # [21:55] <smaug> I'm nowhere near the part 2
  246. # [21:55] <smaug> so don't know what flattening means in this context ;)
  247. # [21:57] <@eeejay> if you are nowhere near part 2, i'll upload a new one :)
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  249. # [22:23] <smaug> eeejay: is it ever possible to execute nsFakeSynthServices::Observe if media.webspeech.synth.test isn't set?
  250. # [22:23] <@eeejay> smaug: I don't understand the question
  251. # [22:23] <smaug> eeejay: do we actually initialize the service if media.webspeech.synth.test==false ?
  252. # [22:25] <@eeejay> nsFakeSynthServices will always be instantiated
  253. # [22:26] <smaug> hmm
  254. # [22:26] <@eeejay> Whether it gets initted and creates fake speech services depends on the pref
  255. # [22:27] <smaug> right
  256. # [22:27] <smaug> somewhat wasteful, but maybe not so bad
  257. # [22:27] <@eeejay> smaug: I would love to know if there is a way to not have it instantiated at all when not testing.
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  266. # [23:23] <smaug> eeejay: you were going to update part 2?
  267. # [23:23] <smaug> or perhaps "Added SPeechSynthesis* to test_interfaces.html" was that
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  269. # [23:26] <@eeejay> smaug: yes
  270. # [23:27] <@eeejay> ah, good to know about revoke. i'll post a new part one momentarily
  271. # [23:29] <@eeejay> smaug: ok, so I guess I'll throw away part 2 for now
  272. # [23:33] <smaug> right
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