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  78. # [15:00] <~davidb> heyo
  79. # [15:00] * ~davidb hunts coffee
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  87. # [15:33] <~davidb> i'm cancelling today's barriersmash
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  91. # [15:40] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I wonder what coffee is like when its dead
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  96. # [15:56] <~davidb> tbsaunde, it is very quiet
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  107. # [17:12] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(dbolter@mozilla.com) on bug 606080.
  108. # [17:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/606080 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — (64bit) fix unique id casting to NS_PTR_TO_INT32 issue
  109. # [17:12] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com set status-firefox39 to wontfix on bug 606080.
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  122. # [17:37] <@eeejay> having issues connecting to vidto
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  125. # [17:39] <@eeejay> davidb|afk: no BS today?
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  130. # [17:44] <~davidb> eeejay, correct
  131. # [17:45] <~davidb> eeejay, i will try not to leave it short notice in future - sorry
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  142. # [19:28] <@tbsaunde> smaug: ping
  143. # [19:29] <smaug> tbsaunde: pong
  144. # [19:29] <@tbsaunde> smaug: so, suppose I have a document in a child process is there a reasonable way to know what element its a child of in the parent?
  145. # [19:31] * davidb is now known as davidb|afk
  146. # [19:31] <@tbsaunde> I think I actually need ot make this work for atk, but I may be able to cheat and say the document is top level instead of being a child of something under the tab whatever doodad
  147. # [19:31] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
  148. # [19:33] <smaug> tbsaunde: so you can access TabChild from the docshell
  149. # [19:33] <smaug> and TabChild and send some message to TabParent
  150. # [19:33] <smaug> and TabParent has mFrameElement
  151. # [19:33] <smaug> tbsaunde: is that what you're looking for?
  152. # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> smaug: well, I already have a message in the parent
  153. # [19:34] <smaug> ok, well then access mFrameElement
  154. # [19:34] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1166825 filed by naesten@gmail.com.
  155. # [19:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1166825 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — GTK port has broken keyboard navigation in the menubar
  156. # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> smaug: sent on PCOntent, but maybe that should move to pTab?
  157. # [19:35] <smaug> ah, yes, PBrowser
  158. # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> PContent is one per child process right?
  159. # [19:35] <smaug> PContent represents a process yes
  160. # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> smaug: and PBrowser and pTab?
  161. # [19:35] <smaug> PBrowser is a tab
  162. # [19:35] <smaug> and TabParent/Child implement it
  163. # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> smaug: basically I think we need to change what manages PDocAccessible since the message I need to do the matching is the PDocAccessible ctor
  164. # [19:36] <smaug> (I don't know why PBrowser for the ipdl, but TabParent/Child for C++)
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  166. # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> smaug: k, that confused me
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  168. # [19:37] <@tbsaunde> smaug: so yeah I think change management then use mFrameElement is what I want thanks
  169. # [19:38] <smaug> tbsaunde: was there some reason to use PContent as manager?
  170. # [19:38] <@tbsaunde> smaug: not really afaik
  171. # [19:39] <@tbsaunde> smaug: that said PBrowser isn't really great since we create PDocAccessible for iframes and stuff too
  172. # [19:39] <smaug> tbsaunde: well, PBrowser is for the top level docshell
  173. # [19:39] <@tbsaunde> but if its for the root doc then aParentDoc is null so we can make it work
  174. # [19:39] <@tbsaunde> smaug: yeah I figured
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  176. # [19:40] <smaug> so, docshell/outer window stay the same, and inner window and document may change
  177. # [19:41] <@tbsaunde> smaug: yeah, that should be fine
  178. # [19:42] <@tbsaunde> I think DocAccessible changes with inner window / document
  179. # [19:42] <@tbsaunde> so when top level document changes we just send delete for one and create new one
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  181. # [19:57] <@yzen> eeejay wanna meet ?
  182. # [20:01] <@eeejay> yzen: yep
  183. # [20:01] <@eeejay> 2 minutes in hello?
  184. # [20:04] * @tbsaunde pokes davidb
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  186. # [20:48] <~davidb> lsocks, FWIW I gave you some bugzilla powers which will have the effect of making bugzilla more ugly and confusing :)
  187. # [20:52] <lsocks> davidb: huzzah, what are these powers?
  188. # [20:52] <~davidb> we call them "canconfirm" and "editbugs"
  189. # [20:53] <~davidb> if in doubt, ask before setting weird flags etc
  190. # [20:54] <lsocks> kk, thanks
  191. # [20:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: should we give here the power to kick random IRC spam bots too?
  192. # [20:54] <@tbsaunde> s/here/her/
  193. # [20:54] <~davidb> sure
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  195. # [20:58] <@lsocks> sweet
  196. # [21:00] <@tbsaunde> if you are like ehsan and feel a need to test kicking someone make a test channel ;p
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  204. # [21:46] <~davidb> nobody is like ehsan
  205. # [21:46] <@yzen> eeejay you there ?
  206. # [21:49] <@eeejay> yzen: hi
  207. # [21:50] <@yzen> eeejay hi, do you think it's worth in case of a switch to use "on" and "off" where we use "checked" and "unchecked" for checkboxes ?
  208. # [21:50] <@eeejay> yzen: tbh, i feel ambivalent about role=switch, could just be a checkbox.
  209. # [21:51] <@eeejay> yzen: but, yes. i guess that would be right
  210. # [21:51] <@yzen> eeejay and that would expand to the checked unchecked events too then , right ?
  211. # [21:55] <@eeejay> what level are we talking about?
  212. # [21:55] <@eeejay> accessfu, or nsiaccessible?
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  214. # [21:59] <@yzen> accessfu, but not sure, perhaps it's best to address lower?
  215. # [21:59] <@yzen> eeejay^
  216. # [21:59] <@eeejay> yzen: no, for nsiaccessible i think we should not have new states
  217. # [22:00] <@yzen> eeejay ok
  218. # [22:00] <@yzen> eeejay because it's not in spec ?
  219. # [22:00] <@eeejay> yzen: if you want accessfu to speak on/off, i am fine with that.
  220. # [22:00] <@eeejay> yzen: because we don't need another toggle state..
  221. # [22:01] <@yzen> true
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  223. # [22:02] <@eeejay> yzen: looking for a twitter exchange i had about that a long time ago
  224. # [22:04] <@eeejay> i don't think a switch role adds anything useful, it is only a slightly different motif
  225. # [22:04] <~davidb> bonus point for using the word motif
  226. # [22:04] <@eeejay> but if it is being added to aria, we may as well support it
  227. # [22:06] <@eeejay> thanks
  228. # [22:06] <~davidb> (especially if you were punning on solaris motif)
  229. # [22:06] * ~davidb <-- old
  230. # [22:07] <@eeejay> from all the new interaction patterns that mobile introduces, describing an switch styled checkbox is not one of them
  231. # [22:07] <@eeejay> davidb: more or lesstif
  232. # [22:07] <~davidb> wow
  233. # [22:08] * @eeejay <-- grew up with sun sparc stations at home
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  239. # [22:46] <~davidb> time to translocate
  240. # [22:46] * Quits: ~davidb (davidb@moz-i5m.05u.207.66.IP) (Quit: Blah blah blah)
  241. # [22:47] * Quits: anvk (anovak@moz-871.mvk.11.204.IP) (Quit: Leaving.)
  242. # [23:01] <@firebot> obara.justin@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 994715 from nobody@mozilla.org to obara.justin@gmail.com.
  243. # [23:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/994715 — NEW, obara.justin@gmail.com — [AccessFu] Add a screen reader notification for screen on/off.
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  251. # Session Close: Thu May 21 00:00:00 2015

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