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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jun 08 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  31. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1171728 from --- to FIXED.
  32. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1171728 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  33. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox41 to fixed on bug 1171728.
  34. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1171728 from --- to mozilla41.
  35. # [12:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1171728 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — Crash @ mozilla::a11y::AccessibleWrap::GetAtkObject(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*) after bug 1169376
  36. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1170595 from --- to FIXED.
  37. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1170595 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  38. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox41 to fixed on bug 1170595.
  39. # [12:01] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1170595 from --- to mozilla41.
  40. # [12:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1170595 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — fix race between document shutdown in child and parent sending messages
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  56. # [16:04] <~davidb> heyo
  57. # [16:04] <~davidb> MarcoZ, shall we?
  58. # [16:05] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Yes, Sir!
  59. # [16:05] <~davidb> ready when you are
  60. # [16:14] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1172516 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  61. # [16:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172516 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — fix firing caret move events for proxied accessibles
  62. # [16:24] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1172523 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  63. # [16:24] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172523 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — fire text change events for atk
  64. # [16:30] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1172525 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  65. # [16:30] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172525 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — rework forwarding events to the parent process
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  68. # [16:49] <~davidb> tbsaunde, any suggestion for order of review?
  69. # [16:49] <~davidb> also, hi
  70. # [16:50] <@tbsaunde> davidb: between bugs probably doesn't matter much
  71. # [16:50] <~davidb> ok
  72. # [16:50] <@tbsaunde> davidb: why don't we make you and lsocks look at them togheter?
  73. # [16:51] <~davidb> tbsaunde, sounds great but not sure when
  74. # [16:51] <@tbsaunde> up to you
  75. # [16:52] <~davidb> tbsaunde, well let's have our chat now?
  76. # [16:52] <@tbsaunde> davidb: coming
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  80. # [17:43] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1172538 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  81. # [17:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172538 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — make sure a document has an IPC actor before shutting it down
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  99. # [19:29] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1172577 filed by lorien@lorienhu.com.
  100. # [19:29] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172577 — NEW, lorien@lorienhu.com — mozAccessible customDescription needs to handle proxies
  101. # [19:31] <@lsocks> davidb: when do you wanna tackle tbsaunde's patches?
  102. # [19:32] <~davidb> lsocks, is tomorrow at 11am ok?
  103. # [19:32] <@lsocks> kk
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  111. # [20:23] <@tbsaunde> joanie: can you look at people.mozilla.org/~tsaunders/debug.out and tell me why using the arrows doesn't read anything (this is nightly with e10s and caret nav both on)
  112. # [20:30] <joanie> tbsaunde: sure one sec
  113. # [20:32] <joanie> tbsaunde: from a quick glance, it seems Orca is not finding anything after the "helping with MDN" link
  114. # [20:34] <@tbsaunde> joanie: "not finding anything after" what exactly does that mean?
  115. # [20:35] <joanie> it means that Orca looked at the end of the current line, thinks the last thing on the line is that link, then looked for the next caret context and found nothing. Might be an Orca bug, but that's what it means
  116. # [20:35] <joanie> what page?
  117. # [20:37] <@tbsaunde> joanie: planet.mozilla.org
  118. # [20:37] <@tbsaunde> joanie: note its e10s on so I'd bet some sort of e10s bug
  119. # [20:37] <joanie> might be mine
  120. # [20:37] <@tbsaunde> I'd just like to understand what
  121. # [20:38] <joanie> lemme try with stable
  122. # [20:38] <joanie> sure
  123. # [20:38] <@tbsaunde> joanie: e10s in stable and nightly is going to be very different
  124. # [20:38] <@tbsaunde> and this is nightly + a bunch of patches
  125. # [20:38] <joanie> btw, it probably doesn't have anything to do with your particular issue, but for s's and g's search debug.outs for FAIL and HACK
  126. # [20:39] <joanie> debug.out tells you when the text iface seems broken
  127. # [20:40] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yeah I see some FAIL
  128. # [20:41] <@tbsaunde> joanie: and I see at least one thing that's an e10s bug
  129. # [20:41] <@tbsaunde> so lets see what fixing that gets us
  130. # [20:41] <joanie> ok
  131. # [20:42] <joanie> I'm not getting stuck myself in stable
  132. # [20:42] <joanie> but tht might be e10s, or it might be where text wrapps
  133. # [20:42] <joanie> if the link starts and ends in the middle of other text, Orca rarely gets hung up
  134. # [20:42] <joanie> it usually doesn't get hung up on links that split lines either
  135. # [20:43] <joanie> but if orca is going to get suck on a link, that's when it's more likely
  136. # [20:43] * joanie grabs nightly
  137. # [20:44] <@tbsaunde> joanie: honestly you should probably hold off I bet the bug I found is at fault
  138. # [20:44] <joanie> ok
  139. # [20:44] <@tbsaunde> joanie: but thanks that was useful!
  140. # [20:44] <joanie> yay :)
  141. # [20:44] <joanie> the more you navigate, they more you'll find the fails and hacks
  142. # [20:45] <joanie> overall, things have gotten much better wrt the accessible text implementation
  143. # [20:45] <joanie> but there's still plenty of edge cases
  144. # [20:49] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yeah, I know some linewrapping stuff is pretty buggy :(
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  153. # [21:25] <@tbsaunde> !summan surkov
  154. # [21:26] * joanie asks tbsaunde summon ?
  155. # [21:26] <@tbsaunde> joanie: hm? I'm just wishing he was around
  156. # [21:26] <joanie> tbsaunde: spelling error
  157. # [21:27] <joanie> if there is a bot command, odds are you have to spell it correctly
  158. # [21:27] <@tbsaunde> spelling is for chumps ;)
  159. # [21:27] <joanie> heh
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  163. # [21:33] <guigs> hello, I did some research for this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1065227
  164. # [21:33] <guigs> Is the extension required to change the javascript action on the suggestions page, and how do you do this?
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  169. # [21:43] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ok, can you look at the new people.mozilla.org/~tsaunders/debug.out?
  170. # [21:43] <joanie> sure
  171. # [21:43] <@tbsaunde> joanie: still pmo, with e10s
  172. # [21:44] <joanie> and still no next context
  173. # [21:44] <@tbsaunde> no FAIL or HACK in there
  174. # [21:44] <joanie> that's good though :)
  175. # [21:44] <@tbsaunde> joanie: hm I wonder why
  176. # [21:44] <joanie> and you don't see the problem without e10s?
  177. # [21:45] <@tbsaunde> joanie: I really doubt it
  178. # [21:45] <@tbsaunde> joanie: can you tell me how orca tries to get the context?
  179. # [21:46] <joanie> it pieces together the lines from embedded object characters
  180. # [21:46] <joanie> i.e. it's not a simple tiny bit of code
  181. # [21:46] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ok
  182. # [21:46] <joanie> so if I can reproduce this then I can take a look
  183. # [21:47] <joanie> so it would be helpful to know if this really is only in e10s
  184. # [21:47] <joanie> it would also be helpful to know what lines that are presented correctly contain, i.e. so I can have the same line wrapping you have
  185. # [21:48] <@tbsaunde> joanie: I don't know that I have ever seen moving by lines work in e10s
  186. # [21:48] <joanie> heh
  187. # [21:48] <@tbsaunde> joanie: so I suspect its really basic
  188. # [21:48] <@tbsaunde> I just don't know what
  189. # [21:48] <joanie> ok, so it's not about planet or this link
  190. # [21:49] <@tbsaunde> joanie: no
  191. # [21:49] <joanie> ok, lemme try e10s
  192. # [21:51] <joanie> when I try e10s, nothing works
  193. # [21:51] <joanie> do you have a special build tbsaunde?
  194. # [21:52] <@tbsaunde> joanie: well I have a bunch of patches
  195. # [21:53] <@tbsaunde> I guess I can go do other stuff and in a couple days they should be in nightly
  196. # [21:53] <joanie> tbsaunde: something you could turn into one of those try builds?
  197. # [21:53] <joanie> ok
  198. # [21:53] <@tbsaunde> joanie: or I could do that I guess
  199. # [21:53] <joanie> up to you
  200. # [21:53] <joanie> I'm working on other stuff at the moment
  201. # [21:54] <joanie> so if you are too, I wouldn't mind a two-day delay
  202. # [21:54] <@tbsaunde> I hope I can get this stuff commiteed in the next day or two so lets just wait
  203. # [21:54] <joanie> btw, I'll be up there next week
  204. # [21:54] <joanie> for mathml stuff
  205. # [21:54] <@tbsaunde> joanie: oh huh
  206. # [21:54] <joanie> but we could look at this sort of thing a bit
  207. # [21:54] <@tbsaunde> joanie: actually I'm out of town that week
  208. # [21:54] <joanie> bah
  209. # [21:54] <joanie> ok
  210. # [21:56] <@tbsaunde> joanie: you might be able to work with lsocks some, but that might be asking a lot of her
  211. # [21:56] <joanie> I do have that effect on people :P
  212. # [21:56] <joanie> I'm sure I'll have more than enough mathml to do anyway
  213. # [21:57] <@tbsaunde> heh
  214. # [21:58] <@tbsaunde> who all is doing mathml?
  215. # [21:58] <joanie> frederic wang and alex surkov and me
  216. # [21:58] <joanie> it's a small thang
  217. # [21:59] <joanie> with surkov in town and frederic on our side of the pond for other things
  218. # [21:59] <joanie> and I can drive
  219. # [21:59] <joanie> so....
  220. # [21:59] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yeah have fun
  221. # [21:59] <joanie> thanks!
  222. # [22:00] <~davidb> joanie, you here monday?
  223. # [22:00] <~davidb> (what time)
  224. # [22:01] <joanie> davidb: that's the day I'm driving up and I don't know when I'll arrive
  225. # [22:01] <joanie> I'm thinking I'll leave here pretty early though
  226. # [22:01] <~davidb> ok np
  227. # [22:01] <joanie> I see crap at night
  228. # [22:02] <joanie> and I see crap++ at night in unfamiliar places
  229. # [22:02] <~davidb> yeah i'll assume it is a travel day and see you if i see you
  230. # [22:02] <joanie> I'm staying at a B&B btw
  231. # [22:02] <~davidb> just wanted to make sure you didn't beat us to the office
  232. # [22:02] <~davidb> cool
  233. # [22:02] <joanie> everything even remotely close is either booked or $250/night
  234. # [22:02] <~davidb> ouch
  235. # [22:02] <joanie> yeah
  236. # [22:03] <joanie> but there's a vegetarian b&b about 30 minute walk, and it's on the ... dunno if it's a trolley or subway or what
  237. # [22:03] <joanie> public transportation though
  238. # [22:03] <joanie> 100+ bucks a night
  239. # [22:03] <~davidb> heheh ok, maybe streetcar
  240. # [22:03] <joanie> win!
  241. # [22:03] <~davidb> nice
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  243. # [22:03] <~davidb> i'll be very interested in your review
  244. # [22:03] <joanie> and vegetarian
  245. # [22:03] <joanie> so I may need to walk because I'll eat breakfast :)
  246. # [22:05] <~davidb> heheh
  247. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> joanie: or you can join the potato chips for breakfast club
  248. # [22:07] <joanie> heh
  249. # [22:07] <joanie> no thank you
  250. # [22:07] <@tbsaunde> heh
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