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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jul 08 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  6. # [00:26] <@firebot> wmccloskey@mozilla.com requested needinfo from bugs@pettay.fi on bug 1181177.
  7. # [00:26] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181177 — UNCONFIRMED, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — [e10s] crash in mozilla::dom::PBrowserChild::SendPDocAccessibleConstructor
  8. # [00:45] <@firebot> bugs@pettay.fi cancelled needinfo?(bugs@pettay.fi) on bug 1181177.
  9. # [00:45] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181177 — UNCONFIRMED, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — [e10s] crash in mozilla::dom::PBrowserChild::SendPDocAccessibleConstructor
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  21. # [09:46] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(mzehe@mozilla.com) on bug 1180189.
  22. # [09:47] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1180189 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::HTMLTableRowAccessible::GroupPosition()
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  26. # [11:19] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr cancelled needinfo?(yzenevich@mozilla.com) on bug 1163374.
  27. # [11:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163374 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — [AccessFu] MathML accessibility support on Firefox mobile platforms
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  29. # [11:35] <@firebot> simone.lando@mozillaitalia.org changed the Component on bug 1181488 from Untriaged to Disability Access.
  30. # [11:35] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181488 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Possibility to move buttons (accessibility for left-handed people)
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  32. # [12:21] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 1181488 from Disability Access to Toolbars and Customization.
  33. # [12:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181488 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Possibility to move buttons (accessibility for left-handed people)
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  43. # [14:17] <~davidb> heyo
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  46. # [14:50] <&MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
  47. # [14:50] <~davidb> hi hi
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  49. # [14:57] <@tbsaunde> hi
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  51. # [14:57] <&MarcoZ> Whoohoo, the clock on this IrcCloud instance seems to be way off. It shows I sent my message at 2:01PM, where it is not 2:57 PM. And my computer's clock is definitely correct.
  52. # [14:58] <~davidb> tbsaunde, hi hi hi
  53. # [14:58] <&MarcoZ> Hi tbsaunde!
  54. # [14:58] <~davidb> MarcoZ, so today's BS is desktop
  55. # [14:58] <~davidb> MarcoZ, want to preload the agenda?
  56. # [14:59] * ~davidb just remembered he is going to work on text bug mochitests
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  59. # [15:04] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Oh geez, desktop? Seems like we can carry over that old agenda we already had last time. :(
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  63. # [15:25] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1181177.
  64. # [15:25] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181177 — UNCONFIRMED, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — [e10s] crash in mozilla::dom::PBrowserChild::SendPDocAccessibleConstructor
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  68. # [15:34] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1181177 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
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  75. # [16:13] <~davidb> ./mach help mochitest |less
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  87. # [17:25] <~davidb> BS in 5 minutes, for Toronto we are in don mills (orange wall)
  88. # [17:25] <~davidb> (NE-ish corner)
  89. # [17:25] <~davidb> tbsaunde, lsocks, you guys joining?
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  93. # [17:30] <~davidb> roll call
  94. # [17:31] <~davidb> MarcoZ, Gijs...
  95. # [17:31] <~davidb> this should be quick
  96. # [17:32] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Sorry, am having connection issues.
  97. # [17:33] <~davidb> ok
  98. # [17:33] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i can't login from my laptop over wireless, just threw a room here
  99. # [17:33] <~davidb> Gijs is in though...
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  101. # [17:35] <~davidb> MarcoZ, want to try dialing in? +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99369 (US) (toll free, Skype)
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  103. # [17:52] <joanie> fredw: ping?
  104. # [17:53] <fredw> joanie: hola
  105. # [17:53] <joanie> hey. So I'm sitting here with Antonino Sistac in Zaragoza
  106. # [17:53] <joanie> we're talking about MathML
  107. # [17:54] <joanie> company url: readspeaker.com
  108. # [17:54] <joanie> They do LD related speech as a service for lots of things, including MathML
  109. # [17:54] <joanie> And I told him it would be really great to have the speech output from his products added to our wiki.
  110. # [17:54] <joanie> Then I remembered that it was Gecko. ;)
  111. # [17:54] <&MarcoZ> bug 1171344
  112. # [17:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1171344 — ASSIGNED, nhnt11@gmail.com — [implement] One-off searches on about:home and about:newtab
  113. # [17:55] <joanie> I have not have much sleep
  114. # [17:55] <joanie> anyhoo, what do you think about collecting info in a table for > Gecko?
  115. # [17:55] <joanie> should we start a new wiki
  116. # [17:55] <joanie> should we mod the existing table
  117. # [17:55] <joanie> or something else?
  118. # [17:57] <&MarcoZ> bug 452800
  119. # [17:57] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/452800 — ASSIGNED, gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com — textarea and input styled non-inset/outset border styles do not display in high contrast mode
  120. # [17:59] <joanie> fredw:
  121. # [17:59] <joanie> ^^
  122. # [17:59] <fredw> joanie: I think in general MDN can contain anything related to the open web (not only Mozilla technology). But for the special case of Mozilla/MathML_Project/a11y I'd prefer to keep only what is done for the "Mozilla MathML project". So if we want to all the tools doing MathML-to-speech (this will be a lot of columns!) this should probably be in a separate page.
  123. # [17:59] <joanie> good to know. Thanks!
  124. # [17:59] <joanie> I like the idea of keeping it in one general(ish) area (like MDN)
  125. # [18:00] <joanie> so what about my creating a new page and then linking the two?
  126. # [18:00] <joanie> or would you rather do so?
  127. # [18:00] <fredw> joanie: yes that sounds good. Probably under https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/MathML
  128. # [18:01] <fredw> we should also add links on this MathML page too btw.
  129. # [18:01] <fredw> (I already added a link to our test from the MathML torture test https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/MathML_Project/MathML_Torture_Test#MathML_Torture_Test)
  130. # [18:01] <joanie> indeed.
  131. # [18:01] <joanie> cool thanks!
  132. # [18:02] <joanie> fredw: one more quick thing, Antonino and I were chatting about the possibility of a "MathML A11y Summit" in Spain (e.g. Zaragoza) like late Nov or early Dec, or maybe 2016. ;)
  133. # [18:02] <fredw> joanie: I think one thing I'd be interested is to compare Orca + WebKit/Gecko and VoiceOver + Firefox/Safari.
  134. # [18:03] <joanie> hahahahaha
  135. # [18:03] <joanie> Once I fix all the bugs in WebKitGtk
  136. # [18:03] <fredw> joanie: that sounds interesting
  137. # [18:03] <joanie> and then implement an Orca-controlled caret for Epiphany/WebKitGtk
  138. # [18:03] <joanie> then I would be happy to fill out such a column
  139. # [18:03] <fredw> joanie: in early december there is the Web Engines Hackfest in coruña
  140. # [18:03] <joanie> :)
  141. # [18:03] <joanie> bingo re A Coruña
  142. # [18:04] <joanie> i.e. if some of us are already in Spain
  143. # [18:04] <joanie> might as well go to Zaragoza before/after
  144. # [18:04] <joanie> overseas flights are expensive
  145. # [18:04] <joanie> anyhoo, it's not anywhere close to being an event (yet)
  146. # [18:04] <fredw> joanie: yes, that sounds a good idea. My manager & I were already invited to a coruña
  147. # [18:05] <joanie> it's more of a heads-up about the possibility of getting all stakeholders (including Neal at DesignSci)
  148. # [18:05] <joanie> in one place
  149. # [18:05] <joanie> cool.
  150. # [18:05] <joanie> Later today or tomorrow, I will send an email to both you and Antonino to "introduce" you to one another.
  151. # [18:05] <fredw> joanie: OK, thank you
  152. # [18:06] <~davidb> (re: BS meeting, I lied about it being quick :) )
  153. # [18:07] * joanie is wandering off. Thanks for your time fredw! :)
  154. # [18:08] <fredw> joanie: you're welcome. I'm logging off. I started to check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula#Formatting_using_TeX with Orca today. I'll continue tomorrow and give feedback
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  164. # [19:39] <@firebot> rkothari@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jdiggs@igalia.com on bug 1178817.
  165. # [19:39] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1178817 — FIXED, fred.wang@free.fr — Reliable segfault in mozilla::a11y::HTMLTableRowAccessible::GroupPosition() in Nightly
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  167. # [19:51] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox41 to fixed on bug 1178817.
  168. # [19:51] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1178817 — FIXED, fred.wang@free.fr — Reliable segfault in mozilla::a11y::HTMLTableRowAccessible::GroupPosition() in Nightly
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  174. # [20:42] <@lsocks> smaug: I'm trying to fix up the test for that EventListenerChange patch. Do you have any idea what could be causing this? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838974
  175. # [20:42] <@lsocks> smaug: patch: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838978
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  180. # [21:24] <smaug> lsocks: looks odd
  181. # [21:28] <smaug> we have null pointer there ?
  182. # [21:29] <@lsocks> yeah, obj is null
  183. # [21:31] <smaug> did you run this on debug build?
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  185. # [21:32] <@lsocks> yes
  186. # [21:32] <smaug> no interesting warnings or assertions there?
  187. # [21:34] <@lsocks> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838985
  188. # [21:35] <jfrench> MarcoZ: hi! quick newbie aria question if you have a sec. It relates to Treeherder
  189. # [21:36] <~davidb> jfrench, it is 9:36pm for MarcoZ, you might want to fire him an email instead?
  190. # [21:37] <jfrench> davidb: sure, thank you :)
  191. # [21:37] <~davidb> anytime
  192. # [21:41] <smaug> lsocks: do you know what Element we're trying to wrap there?
  193. # [21:46] * Gijs is now known as Gijs_away
  194. # [21:46] <@lsocks> DumpJSStack gives me 0 changeListener(array = [xpconnect wrapped nsIArray @ 0x12e5e9580 (native @ 0x12e5dc6e0)]) ["chrome://mochitests/content/chrome/dom/events/test/test_bug524674.xul":91]
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  198. # [22:04] <@lsocks> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838989
  199. # [22:04] <@lsocks> looks like it's trying to wrap an EventTarget from an event listener change that doesn't have to do with the test
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  201. # [22:06] <@lsocks> nsXULElement
  202. # [22:08] <@lsocks> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838991
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  206. # [22:41] <@tbsaunde> smaug: ^?
  207. # [22:42] * smaug asks bholley
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  210. # [22:45] <smaug> lsocks: could you upload the patch with the test changes to the bug
  211. # [22:45] <smaug> I could try to debug it a bit
  212. # [22:45] <@lsocks> kk
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  216. # [23:04] <@lsocks> y
  217. # [23:04] <@lsocks> oops
  218. # [23:08] <@firebot> wmccloskey@mozilla.com requested needinfo from bugs@pettay.fi on bug 1181177.
  219. # [23:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181177 — NEW, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — [e10s] crash in mozilla::dom::PBrowserChild::SendPDocAccessibleConstructor
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