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- # [04:36] * Topic is 'build the web for everyone | http://logbot.glob.com.au/?c=accessibility'
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- # [08:13] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1182469.
- # [08:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182469 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — The mathvariant transformation is not visible in the accessible tree
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- # [14:20] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1177765.
- # [14:20] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1177765 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — Add xmlroles for MathML
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- # [14:26] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1177765.
- # [14:31] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1182469.
- # [14:31] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182469 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — The mathvariant transformation is not visible in the accessible tree
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- # [15:31] <~davidb> heyo
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- # [15:31] <~davidb> (WFH today)
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- # [15:36] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr requested needinfo from roc@ocallahan.org on bug 1182469.
- # [15:36] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182469 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — The mathvariant transformation is not visible in the accessible tree
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- # [16:02] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1163744.
- # [16:02] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163744 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [a11y] div with tabindex skipped when navigating with NVDA
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- # [16:11] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at set status-firefox41 to affected on bug 1181177.
- # [16:11] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1181177 — FIXED, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — Linux and Windows crashes in mozilla::dom::PBrowserChild::SendPDocAccessibleConstructor
- # [16:15] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com set status-firefox41 to affected on bug 1180189.
- # [16:15] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com set status-firefox42 to verified on bug 1180189.
- # [16:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1180189 — FIXED, fred.wang@free.fr — crash in mozilla::a11y::HTMLTableRowAccessible::GroupPosition()
- # [16:18] <MarcoZ> davidb: Hi! Sorry, will have to dump bug 486268 on you in case Ehsan and others need feedback in the next two weeks.
- # [16:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/486268 — INCOMPLETE, nobody@mozilla.org — Camino does not display cyrillic characters entered through the keyboard
- # [16:18] <~davidb> ye
- # [16:18] <~davidb> yep saw that :)
- # [16:18] <MarcoZ> Crap, wrong bug number.
- # [16:19] <~davidb> 262 :)
- # [16:19] <MarcoZ> davidb: Meant bug 486262 of course. :)
- # [16:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/486262 — NEW, ehsan@mozilla.com — Provide visual indicator as to which tab is causing sound
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- # [16:53] <MarcoZ> Anything anyone needs from me urgently? PTO is rapidly coming up. :)
- # [16:56] <~davidb> MarcoZ, surkov might want to know text bug priorities
- # [16:56] <~davidb> dunno if you guys chatted recently
- # [16:57] <@surkov> no, we didn’t, I still digging through emails
- # [17:12] <MarcoZ> davidb: surkov: I think offset bugs are the most pressing ones, especially those that keep NVDA from properly supporting rich text editing.
- # [17:12] * ~davidb nods
- # [17:19] <MarcoZ> OK, our cleaning woman will probably throw me out of the office shortly to do her work. See you on August 3, guys!
- # [17:22] * MarcoZ waves.
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- # [19:50] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jmathies@mozilla.com on bug 1182097.
- # [19:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182097 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Disable e10s for a11y users in FF41
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- # [19:58] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(jmathies@mozilla.com) on bug 1182097.
- # [19:59] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 1182097 from nobody@mozilla.org to tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
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- # [21:05] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1184217 from --- to FIXED.
- # [21:05] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1184217 from NEW to RESOLVED.
- # [21:05] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com set status-firefox42 to fixed on bug 1184217.
- # [21:05] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1184217 from --- to mozilla42.
- # [21:06] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1184217 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent::Unbind()
- # [21:06] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1100602 from --- to FIXED.
- # [21:06] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1100602 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
- # [21:06] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1100602 — FIXED, wmccloskey@mozilla.com — [e10s] crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible::Shutdown()
- # [21:09] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org changed the Resolution on bug 1184217 from FIXED to ---.
- # [21:09] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org changed the Status on bug 1184217 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
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- # [21:46] <mconley> tbsaunde: ping
- # [21:47] <mconley> or lsocks?
- # [21:54] <@tbsaunde> mconley: hey
- # [21:54] <@tbsaunde> mconley: she's at the rowing thing
- # [21:55] <mconley> tbsaunde: hey - I've got a crash in a Marionette-e10s - was hoping you could check it out and tell me what it might mean
- # [21:55] <mconley> it's in the a11y layer
- # [21:55] <mconley> tbsaunde: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8839749
- # [21:56] <mconley> tbsaunde: some context - I'm fiddling with window open code, to make it more strict what kind of features the content process can request from the parent in new windows.
- # [21:56] <mconley> and I have no idea how I'm hitting this.
- # [22:00] <@tbsaunde> mconley: is this a child or parent crash?
- # [22:00] <mconley> tbsaunde: child
- # [22:00] <@tbsaunde> mconley: hrm let see
- # [22:03] <@tbsaunde> mconley: ok so this kind of makes sense
- # [22:04] <mconley> tbsaunde: what have I done wrong?
- # [22:04] <@tbsaunde> mconley: well mostly I'd say you exposed an existing bug
- # [22:05] * @tbsaunde thinks about how to fix
- # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> the cheap hack is to just not do anything with events in the mac code if wwe are in the child process
- # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> really we shouldn't create RootAccessibles in the child I think because those are really only for xul windows
- # [22:07] <@tbsaunde> but we used to get away with creating them for the top document in a tree in a child
- # [22:07] <mconley> tbsaunde: any idea how I could have possibly exposed this?
- # [22:08] <@tbsaunde> mconley: not really, I guess you did something that caused a focus event to get fired where it didn't used to
- # [22:11] <mconley> ah
- # [22:11] * mconley scratches head
- # [22:12] <mconley> I don't think I changed the order of events...
- # [22:13] <@tbsaunde> mconley: I'm not sure why we didn't see this before, but does that really matter?
- # [22:13] <mconley> tbsaunde: I guess I just want to know how to proceed on this
- # [22:16] <@tbsaunde> mconley: it seems to me we should fix a11y to not create RootAccessibles in the child process
- # [22:16] <@tbsaunde> we should also fix it to not create mac specific objects...
- # [22:16] <@tbsaunde> mconley: can I take a couple days to fix a11y? or do you want a hack sooner?
- # [22:17] <mconley> tbsaunde: how many days are we talking about here? Like, early next week?
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- # [22:20] <@tbsaunde> mconley: I think so
- # [22:20] <@tbsaunde> mconley: I think this should be an easy change once I check some code
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- # [22:33] <~davidb> tbsaunde, is lsocks doing a presentation today?
- # [22:34] <@tbsaunde> davidb: she wnet on the rowing trip
- # [22:35] * ~davidb last to know
- # [22:35] <~davidb> cool
- # [22:35] <@tbsaunde> its easier when your in the office
- # [22:35] <~davidb> yeah i much prefer working in the office
- # [22:36] * @tbsaunde shrugs both have benefits
- # [22:48] <@lsocks> wait
- # [22:49] <@tbsaunde> lsocks: sup? how was it?
- # [22:49] <@lsocks> mconley: is this a crash or exception
- # [22:50] <@tbsaunde> lsocks: its an assertion failure, but I think its some wierd mac assert
- # [22:50] <@lsocks> I think I know what it is
- # [22:50] <@lsocks> I need to get back
- # [22:50] <mconley> lsocks: it's an assertion failure, and then we crash the content process
- # [22:51] <@lsocks> what's the assertion? I don't Dee it in the JFK
- # [22:51] <@lsocks> see Irvin the lig
- # [22:51] <@lsocks> ... see it in the log
- # [22:52] <@tbsaunde> lsocks: NSAssert(mParallelView, @"can't return root accessible's native parallel view.");
- # [22:52] <@tbsaunde> also LOL
- # [22:53] <@lsocks> I'm on my phone :(
- # [22:53] <~davidb> are you in a boat?
- # [22:53] <@tbsaunde> lsocks: I figured
- # [22:54] <~davidb> uh oh she dropped her phone in the lake
- # [22:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: or drowned
- # [22:54] <@lsocks> we're taking uber back right now
- # [22:54] <~davidb> phew
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- # [23:39] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org cancelled needinfo?(roc@ocallahan.org) on bug 1182469.
- # [23:39] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182469 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — The mathvariant transformation is not visible in the accessible tree
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