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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jul 29 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  8. # [02:50] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1187055 from --- to FIXED.
  9. # [02:50] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1187055 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  10. # [02:50] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox42 to fixed on bug 1187055.
  11. # [02:50] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1187055 from --- to mozilla42.
  12. # [02:50] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1187055 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::ProxyDestroyed(mozilla::a11y::ProxyAccessible*)
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  25. # [14:27] <~davidb> heyo
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  44. # [16:00] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1182097 from --- to FIXED.
  45. # [16:00] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1182097 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  46. # [16:00] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1182097 from --- to mozilla41.
  47. # [16:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182097 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — Disable e10s for a11y users in FF41
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  63. # [17:37] <@eeejay> BS?
  64. # [17:45] <@yzen> eeejay thinking the same, can't find davidb
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  67. # [17:56] <~davidb> i dropped the ball
  68. # [17:56] <~davidb> eeejay, yzen, sorry
  69. # [17:56] <@eeejay> nw
  70. # [17:57] <~davidb> (got distracted by weird voice message)
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  90. # [19:24] <@lsocks> davidb: which html elements are inaccessible normally?
  91. # [19:25] <@lsocks> we're trying to find an element that would fall into the nsAccessibilityService.cpp:1216 case
  92. # [19:26] <~davidb> lsocks, ok looking (at https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/base/nsAccessibilityService.cpp#1216)
  93. # [19:29] <~davidb> lsocks, not sure, maybe <div onclick="foo()"> ?
  94. # [19:29] <@lsocks> divs are apparently normally accessible
  95. # [19:29] <~davidb> span?
  96. # [19:29] <@lsocks> same
  97. # [19:29] <~davidb> do we collapse spans?
  98. # [19:29] <@lsocks> i thought they weren't but they're falling into 1033
  99. # [19:29] <~davidb> <span><span>abc</span></span>
  100. # [19:30] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I think you get an accessible per span
  101. # [19:30] <~davidb> ok
  102. # [19:31] <~davidb> what if there is no text
  103. # [19:31] <@lsocks> i tried that already
  104. # [19:31] <~davidb> <span onclick="foo()"></span> ?
  105. # [19:31] <~davidb> maybe it is easiest to put a breakpoint in the 1216 body and see what hits?
  106. # [19:31] <~davidb> go to a big site.
  107. # [19:33] <~davidb> i wish we had easy pre-mercurial history
  108. # [19:33] <@tbsaunde> davidb: github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev?
  109. # [19:33] <~davidb> tbsaunde, if you can check cvs history i think you might find a mochitest
  110. # [19:33] <@tbsaunde> or become smaug and like the cvs thing
  111. # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> davidb: of what?
  112. # [19:34] <~davidb> 1 min
  113. # [19:35] <~davidb> what about <div role="presentation" onclick="foo()"> ?
  114. # [19:36] <~davidb> (blame took me to bug 344392 but no mochitest)
  115. # [19:36] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/344392 — FIXED, aaronlev@gmail.com — Prefer markup over frame type for determining HTML accessibles
  116. # [19:36] <~davidb> lsocks ^
  117. # [19:36] <~davidb> does that div example hit?
  118. # [19:37] <~davidb> i refuse to become smaug, i value sleep
  119. # [19:37] <@lsocks> one sec, I just noticed that the error I get for spans is different
  120. # [19:37] <~davidb> k
  121. # [19:38] <~davidb> tbsaunde, thanks for that github link
  122. # [19:40] <@lsocks> ok, spans work
  123. # [19:41] <@lsocks> looks like I need to pass an argument in to getAccessible if I expect it to fail
  124. # [19:41] <~davidb> ok so you are good?
  125. # [19:41] <@lsocks> yep, thanks
  126. # [19:41] <~davidb> great
  127. # [19:44] <smaug> hmm
  128. # [19:45] <@tbsaunde> smaug: ?
  129. # [19:45] <smaug> davidb: sleep? I sleep just the right amount. Just not when most other Finns sleep ;)
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  131. # [19:53] <~davidb> :)
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  133. # [20:00] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Component on bug 1186267 from Disability Access APIs to Keyboard: Navigation.
  134. # [20:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1186267 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Add a keyboard shortcut for toggling the tab mute state
  135. # [20:00] <~davidb> tbsaunde, perhaps of interest, ehsan showed me a trick https://bug486262.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=8640055
  136. # [20:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/486262 — NEW, ehsan@mozilla.com — Provide visual indicator as to which tab is causing sound
  137. # [20:01] <~davidb> made me think of ifdef'ing the e10s + a11y mode, but maybe that wouldn't be well received
  138. # [20:04] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I've thought about that, but been osrt of meh its not that hard to change once on the branch, and hopefully we can let it ride the trains soon
  139. # [20:04] <~davidb> ok
  140. # [20:35] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1188993 filed by benjamin@smedbergs.us.
  141. # [20:35] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1188993 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Linux: Control-K doesn't go to the search bar if any textbox is focused
  142. # [20:44] <@firebot> acomminos@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1188993 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  143. # [20:44] <@firebot> acomminos@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1188993 from NEW to RESOLVED.
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  149. # [23:03] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1189069 filed by rrayborn@mozilla.com.
  150. # [23:03] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1189069 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [Windows 10] F11 Fullscreen exit not working
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