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  1. # Session Start: Tue Aug 11 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  56. # [14:29] <~davidb> heyo
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  64. # [14:54] <&MarcoZ> Hi davidb|afk!
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  68. # [14:57] <~davidb> hi hi
  69. # [14:57] * ~davidb was making a coffee for the visiting bike mechanic
  70. # [14:59] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(dbolter@mozilla.com) on bug 1163004.
  71. # [14:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1163004 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Windows 10 instantiates accessibility
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  73. # [15:12] <~davidb> !seen fredw
  74. # [15:12] <@firebot> fredw was last seen 19 days and 21 hours ago, saying 'joanie: yes no problem. I'll log off soon anyway.' in #accessibility.
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  78. # [15:13] <~davidb> surkov, do you have the link to the old wiki page about the toronto math a11y meetup?
  79. # [15:14] <~davidb> (got it)
  80. # [15:14] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1193291 filed by arni2033@yandex.ru.
  81. # [15:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1193291 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — [Request] Ctrl+Shift+O hotkey (shortcut) to open preferences (options)
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  103. # [18:54] <~davidb> !seen clown
  104. # [18:54] <@firebot> clown was last seen 13 days and 53 minutes ago, changing nick to clown_mtg .
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  109. # [20:43] <@tbsaunde> surkov: is there a reason we should spend time on the aria-errormsg thing or not try and force people to deal with it in html
  110. # [20:44] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
  111. # [20:45] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I’m flexible to aria-errormsg, I lean towards that web author will benefit of it
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  113. # [20:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: that's not really a reason?
  114. # [20:46] <@tbsaunde> and its kind of shitty that it means you have this string that can't implement the text interface
  115. # [20:47] <@tbsaunde> and its also probably silly that your web app presumably has the error message someplace else
  116. # [20:47] <@surkov> tbsaunde: aria-errormsg is ID ref value, so text interface should work
  117. # [20:49] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ok that's less bad I guess
  118. # [20:50] <@surkov> it’s just a way to connect error message and the control, if something pops up on the screen saying about error then the screen reader will know what’s for
  119. # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> surkov: sure, but that doesn't answer the question of why this shouldn't be in html itself
  120. # [20:58] <@surkov> tbsaunde: I would appreciate if HTML had something for that. Until that having interim ARIA solution should be ok
  121. # [20:59] <@tbsaunde> surkov: but the choice is basically add one or the other so that doesn't explain why it makes any sense to add an aria thing
  122. # [21:00] <@surkov> tbsaunde: that’s all about ARIA :) HTML has textbox and ARIA has textbox role
  123. # [21:00] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from yzenevich@mozilla.com on bug 1186029.
  124. # [21:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1186029 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Need e10s tests for accessibility
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  126. # [21:01] <~davidb> oi are having the argument that aria should just be html again?
  127. # [21:01] * ~davidb marks another notch in the tree
  128. # [21:02] <~davidb> (tree teeters a bit)
  129. # [21:11] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(yzenevich@mozilla.com) on bug 1186029.
  130. # [21:11] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1186029 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Need e10s tests for accessibility
  131. # [21:14] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(dbolter@mozilla.com) on bug 1186029.
  132. # [21:21] <@tbsaunde> davidb: yeah, kind of ended up there
  133. # [21:22] <@tbsaunde> davidb: but I think there's some value in always pushing back that way
  134. # [21:22] <~davidb> there should always be some kind of bar
  135. # [21:23] <~davidb> aside - why am i so hungry
  136. # [21:23] <@tbsaunde> davidb: you didn't have seconds?
  137. # [21:23] <~davidb> no
  138. # [21:23] <~davidb> i shouldn't really need it
  139. # [21:26] <@tbsaunde> davidb: "shouldn't"
  140. # [21:27] * ~davidb nods
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