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  1. # Session Start: Tue Aug 25 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  35. # [15:09] <~davidb> heyo
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  37. # [15:12] <@firebot> jdiggs@igalia.com cancelled needinfo?(jdiggs@igalia.com) on bug 1197254.
  38. # [15:12] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1197254 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Reliable segfault in mozilla::a11y::ARIAGridCellAccessible::GroupPosition() in Nightly
  39. # [15:13] <joanie> MarcoZ: I assume the fix in question landed already(?)
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  45. # [15:30] <&MarcoZ> joanie: Yes, Friday or Saturday I think it landed in Central.
  46. # [15:30] <joanie> MarcoZ: okie doke.
  47. # [15:34] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1197254.
  48. # [15:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1197254 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Reliable segfault in mozilla::a11y::ARIAGridCellAccessible::GroupPosition() in Nightly
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  56. # [16:04] * &MarcoZ is in full blogging mode today it seems. ;)
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  59. # [16:34] <~davidb> boy howdy
  60. # [16:35] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi
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  63. # [16:38] <&MarcoZ> Hi yzen!
  64. # [16:39] <@yzen> MarcoZ hi, wanted to ask you if you might have any engaging ideas to work on if we were to apply as mentors for Outreachy program
  65. # [16:41] <&MarcoZ> yzen: I'd been pondering this idea since this morning, but hadn't come up with anything useful. I must also admit I've not heard about Outreachy before last wek's internal meeting, so don't know what they do or what might fit and what might not fit.
  66. # [16:42] <@yzen> MarcoZ i think the main idea that it's a sizeable project that can be done more or less independently and be completed within 2-3 months, unlike small contributions
  67. # [16:42] <@yzen> MarcoZ i m thinking that from our standpoint, it would be most interesting working on user facing things, such as android or desktop
  68. # [16:42] <@yzen> something that has an effect
  69. # [16:42] <~davidb> (interesting... https://twitter.com/jared_w_smith/status/635945381180760064)
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  71. # [16:44] <&MarcoZ> yzen: You mean like some front-end bugs or additions that have been lying around, but not been dealt with? Something slightly bigger than, say, adding a menu item for some toolbar item?
  72. # [16:45] <@yzen> MarcoZ yes, something that has a theme, if it's currently captured in a collection of bugs
  73. # [16:45] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Yeah saw that and was quite surprised. Wonder if AI Squared rounded up all employees to fill out the survey. it certainly doesn't reflect the realities I'm seeing when talking to users. Sina said something similar in a reply to jared.
  74. # [16:46] <~davidb> ack
  75. # [16:46] <&MarcoZ> (was half-joking about AISquared rounding up all employees.)
  76. # [16:47] <&MarcoZ> yzen: We *do* have this long standing Audio and Video UI bug lying around, bug 494175, which, if implemented (and approved by powers that be), could have a big impact.
  77. # [16:47] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/494175 — ASSIGNED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — Make <video> and <audio> controls keyboard navigable
  78. # [16:47] <@yzen> MarcoZ ah interesting
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  80. # [16:55] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1198291 filed by danny.wieser@blackboard.com.
  81. # [16:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198291 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover only reads aria-describedby; aria-labelledby ignored
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  85. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> joanie: when you have a minute the hyperlink interface bug should be fixed with e10s, and left / right arrow between objects works, but up / down still doesn't
  86. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> there is a debug.out at people.mozilla.org/~tsaunders/debug.out
  87. # [17:17] <joanie> tbsaunde: I'm about to go into a meeting, but lemme look
  88. # [17:18] <@tbsaunde> joanie: I have other stuff to do so no hurry
  89. # [17:18] <joanie> tbsaunde: hmmm. Is this something I can try locally with the current nightly?
  90. # [17:18] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yup, I just tested with nightly
  91. # [17:19] <joanie> tbsaunde: ok. and your test case?
  92. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> joanie: http://paste.debian.net/304825/
  93. # [17:19] <joanie> thanks
  94. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> np
  95. # [17:19] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1198291 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  96. # [17:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198291 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover only reads aria-describedby; aria-labelledby ignored
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  100. # [18:13] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from dbolter@mozilla.com on bug 1198291.
  101. # [18:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198291 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover only reads aria-describedby; aria-labelledby ignored
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  103. # [18:16] <joanie> tbsaunde: I'm still in that meeting, but am multitasking and have the answer: The extents (from the component iface) report a bounding box of 0, 0, 0, 0.
  104. # [18:16] <joanie> stuff with no size is filtered out of presentation
  105. # [18:16] <joanie> give the paragraph and link size and it should hopefully solve the "blank" problem
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  107. # [18:30] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1198336 filed by danny.wieser@blackboard.com.
  108. # [18:30] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198336 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover: aria-live regions not being announced
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  110. # [18:36] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ah thanks!
  111. # [18:36] <@tbsaunde> I'd been assuming I could ignore that and only flat review would not work, but apparently that was wrong, so I'll fix that now :)
  112. # [18:38] <joanie> tbsaunde: thanks!
  113. # [18:41] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yw, thanks
  114. # [18:41] * davidb|afk is now known as davidb
  115. # [18:42] <~davidb> MarcoZ, yzen, http://kernelnewbies.org/OutreachyMentor?action=show&redirect=OPWMentor
  116. # [18:42] <~davidb> (useful for potential mentors)
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  123. # [19:23] <@tbsaunde> smaug: hey, would you be willing to make the atk component methods in nsMaiInterfaceComponent.cpp work with proxied accessibles?
  124. # [19:23] <smaug> yes
  125. # [19:24] <smaug> about to have empty review queue first time after vacation
  126. # [19:24] <smaug> so I may actually write some code
  127. # [19:25] <@tbsaunde> smaug: heh
  128. # [19:27] <smaug> tbsaunde: do we have bug open for nsMaiInterfaceComponent.cpp?
  129. # [19:27] <@tbsaunde> smaug: I don't think so
  130. # [19:29] <zippo^> High Contrast in Thunderbird works great!!!! but Firefox no really :/
  131. # [19:30] <~davidb> zippo^, the web content area or the surrounding UI?
  132. # [19:35] <~davidb> I think we regressed back when we did the big UI refresh
  133. # [19:35] <~davidb> (at least for Windows High Contrast Mode)
  134. # [19:35] <~davidb> but you are talking OSX i think?
  135. # [19:46] <zippo^> I use on Ubuntu MATE and OS X, but I saw same UI of Firefox and Thunderbird on OS X and Ubuntu MATE.
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  137. # [19:46] <zippo^> I remember that Google Chrome has a special app. maybe can the developer make this
  138. # [19:46] <zippo^> search, brb
  139. # [19:46] <~davidb> zippo^, yeah windows is the odd one out since they use a different approach to high contrast
  140. # [19:48] * stephend|mtg is now known as stephend
  141. # [19:49] <zippo^> davidb: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/high-contrast/djcfdncoelnlbldjfhinnjlhdjlikmph
  142. # [19:50] <~davidb> zippo^, i'm not sure how up to date this is but some related addons might be reviewed here http://www.accessfirefox.org/
  143. # [19:50] <~davidb> looks fairly up to date
  144. # [19:50] <zippo^> never hear about this. thx i go look this now
  145. # [19:52] <~davidb> yeah ken saunders has been a mozilla contributor for a long long time (site creator)
  146. # [19:54] <~davidb> not sure we have a good addon for web content contrast
  147. # [19:54] <@tbsaunde> davidb: remember when 42 branched from nightly?
  148. # [19:55] <~davidb> tbsaunde, around august 10th i think
  149. # [19:56] <@tbsaunde> davidb: k
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  151. # [19:58] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1189277.
  152. # [19:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1189277 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — PDocAccessible::Msg_BindChildDoc KillHard aborts
  153. # [19:58] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1172516.
  154. # [19:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1172516 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — fix firing caret move events for proxied accessibles
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  156. # [20:00] <@firebot> New Firefox - Disability Access bug 1198383 filed by jmathies@mozilla.com.
  157. # [20:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198383 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] figure out what the crash rates are for a11y users on Nightly
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  159. # [20:05] <zippo^> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Us/firefox/addon/color-transform/
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  161. # [20:19] <~davidb> nice!
  162. # [20:25] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1189277.
  163. # [20:25] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1189277 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — PDocAccessible::Msg_BindChildDoc KillHard aborts
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  171. # [21:43] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at cancelled needinfo?(kairo@kairo.at) on bug 1198383.
  172. # [21:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198383 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] figure out what the crash rates are for a11y users on Nightly
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  181. # [22:36] <@firebot> kbrosnan@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(kbrosnan@mozilla.com) on bug 1019432.
  182. # [22:36] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1019432 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu] Zooming doesn't work with TalkBack enabled
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  185. # [22:48] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1198459 filed by jmathies@mozilla.com.
  186. # [22:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198459 — NEW, jmathies@mozilla.com — Disable e10s when we detect a11y is enabled, regardless of a11y client (aurora and up)
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  190. # [23:03] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1184217 from nobody@mozilla.org to tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  191. # [23:03] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com cancelled status-firefox42 on bug 1184217.
  192. # [23:03] <@firebot> ryanvm@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1184217 from mozilla42 to ---.
  193. # [23:03] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1184217 — REOPENED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent::Unbind()
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  196. # [23:14] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 1188415 from jmathies@mozilla.com to nobody@mozilla.org.
  197. # [23:14] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1188415 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent::CheckDocTree()
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