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  1. # Session Start: Wed Aug 26 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  17. # [02:28] <@firebot> dolske@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1192655 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  18. # [02:28] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1192655 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Disable Alt or F10 hotkeys (shortcuts) in fullscreen and DOM fullscreen
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  34. # [08:24] <@firebot> erelsgl@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1198600 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  35. # [08:24] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198600 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — The behaviour of the arrow keys in right-to-left languages is confusing
  36. # [08:28] <@firebot> New Firefox - Keyboard Navigation bug 1198602 filed by pascalc@gmail.com.
  37. # [08:28] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198602 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — CTRL+K no longer working from the URL bar
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  47. # [10:54] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1198336 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  48. # [10:54] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198336 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover: aria-live regions not being announced
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  55. # [14:46] <~davidb> heyo
  56. # [14:47] <&MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
  57. # [14:47] <~davidb> hi hi
  58. # [14:47] <~davidb> i think i owe you a feedback and NI
  59. # [14:47] <~davidb> (just gotta scan the inbox first)
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  64. # [14:59] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(dbolter@mozilla.com) on bug 1198291.
  65. # [14:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198291 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox/Voiceover only reads aria-describedby; aria-labelledby ignored
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  69. # [15:26] <&MarcoZ> davidb|afk: Thanks! Finally getting around to building the patch actually to see if it does what I think it does. ;)
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  73. # [15:43] <~davidb> heheh
  74. # [15:44] * &MarcoZ sighs. Bug 1190368 and the others could have been avoided if we had been involved in the development of the new unified search UI from the beginning, and had not have to discover them after the fact.
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  76. # [15:44] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1190368 — ASSIGNED, adw@mozilla.com — Focus is immediately grabbed by the AutoComplete/tags or bookmarks suggestion list when you start ty
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  80. # [16:30] <&MarcoZ> davidb: You've got a review request. This does indeed work! ;)
  81. # [16:32] <~davidb> MarcoZ, cool! i sort of want surkov to give the nod
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  84. # [16:34] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com changed the Assignee on bug 1198291 from nobody@mozilla.org to mzehe@mozilla.com.
  85. # [16:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198291 — NEW, mzehe@mozilla.com — Firefox/Voiceover only reads aria-describedby; aria-labelledby ignored
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  91. # [17:35] <&MarcoZ> My Vidyo room no longer finds the Accessibility room.
  92. # [17:35] <&MarcoZ> s/vidyo room/vidyo client
  93. # [17:36] <@yzen> MarcoZ weird, seems to connect just fine
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  95. # [17:41] <&MarcoZ> yzen: No luck for me. It says "Connecting to Accessibility" but sits there idling, nothing else happens.
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  97. # [17:41] <&MarcoZ> And that's after I restarted the client twice because it wouldn't even find the room the first two times.
  98. # [17:41] <@yzen> hmm yeah i see you are in it but with no audio/video
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  101. # [18:01] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i wonder if you need to reboot in case skype (or similar) s still hogging camera or something
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  112. # [18:41] <@eeejay> yzen: ping
  113. # [18:41] <@yzen> eeejay hi
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  115. # [18:41] <@eeejay> yzen: what did we decide about bug 1182311?
  116. # [18:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182311 — NEW, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu] 3 finger triple tap is not reliable
  117. # [18:43] <@yzen> eeejay i think we settled on it being ok (but with that one comment addressed)
  118. # [18:43] <@yzen> eeejay the aCanCreate one
  119. # [18:44] <@eeejay> oh, so i owe you a patch
  120. # [18:45] <@eeejay> gotcha
  121. # [18:45] <@eeejay> b2g is refusing to compile/link
  122. # [18:45] <@yzen> hmm
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  124. # [18:57] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1189277.
  125. # [18:57] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1189277 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — PDocAccessible::Msg_BindChildDoc KillHard aborts
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  135. # [19:13] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ping
  136. # [19:20] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1198843 filed by yzenevich@mozilla.com.
  137. # [19:20] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198843 — NEW, yzenevich@mozilla.com — Test please ignore.
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  141. # [19:44] <@surkov> tbsaunde: pong
  142. # [19:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, consider this test case http://paste.debian.net/299388/
  143. # [19:46] <@tbsaunde> surkov: we firea show event for the text leaf child of the title, and then another for the title when that becomes visible
  144. # [19:46] <@tbsaunde> but no hide event
  145. # [19:46] <@tbsaunde> because nsAccessibilityService::ContentRemoved is never called
  146. # [19:47] <@surkov> weird
  147. # [19:47] <@tbsaunde> so the text leaf is reparented to the title accessible, and you get a second show event where the new subtree contains the text leaf
  148. # [19:48] <@surkov> that makse sense
  149. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so have thoughts on how to fix it?
  150. # [19:49] <@surkov> tbsaunde: which accessible you would expected a hide event for?
  151. # [19:50] <@tbsaunde> surkov: the text leaf getting reparented
  152. # [19:50] <@surkov> I see
  153. # [19:50] <@surkov> does reparenting means recreation?
  154. # [19:50] <@tbsaunde> surkov: no
  155. # [19:51] <@surkov> woudln’t it be strange to get hide on it then?
  156. # [19:51] <@tbsaunde> I'd say not since part of the tree went away and then reappeared elsewhere
  157. # [19:52] <@surkov> but hide and show events are used for creation and desctruction
  158. # [19:52] <@surkov> reorder is rather for tree changes
  159. # [19:52] <@tbsaunde> I'd say its an implementation detail that its not destroyed and recreated
  160. # [19:53] <@surkov> ok, I guess it sholuldn’t hurt anybody
  161. # [19:53] <@tbsaunde> reorder is basically useless since it doesn't tell you what happened and its semantics for things like dups are unclear
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  163. # [19:53] <@surkov> then we should fire events when we do reparting
  164. # [19:54] <@tbsaunde> that sounds kind of painful but its certainly an option
  165. # [19:54] <@tbsaunde> I wonder if it would be better to have layout call ContentRemoved in this case
  166. # [19:55] <@tbsaunde> or maybe have ContentInserted call ContentRemoved before adding the new content
  167. # [19:56] <@surkov> it’s rather a question to layout folks, not sure if they do anything special about that text leaf
  168. # [19:57] <@surkov> but that’d be nice for us I think
  169. # [19:58] <@tbsaunde> yeah, I guess the have ContentInserted call ContentRemoved would always work though?
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  171. # [19:59] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1197254.
  172. # [19:59] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1197254 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Reliable segfault in mozilla::a11y::ARIAGridCellAccessible::GroupPosition() in Nightly
  173. # [20:00] <@surkov> it’s mostly how it happens, usually they goes in pair
  174. # [20:01] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, so usually it would be a no op
  175. # [20:01] <@tbsaunde> surkov: unrelatedly do you care about the logging stuff in windows AccessibleWrap::HandleAccEvent?
  176. # [20:01] <@surkov> atk part?
  177. # [20:02] <@tbsaunde> its kind of annoying for e10s since I want to separate windows event dispatch logic out, but it pokes at accessible->GetContent()
  178. # [20:02] <@tbsaunde> surkov: huh?
  179. # [20:03] <@surkov> I missed ‘windows’ part
  180. # [20:03] <@tbsaunde> oh
  181. # [20:04] <@tbsaunde> I also think if that logging is useful it should be somewhere outside of platform specific code
  182. # [20:05] <@surkov> I used it once or twice iirc, I don’t have big problems of removing them, it may hard though to readd them later
  183. # [20:06] <@surkov> that was someting related with windows message handling
  184. # [20:07] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I doubt it would be hard to add
  185. # [20:07] <@surkov> then it should be fine
  186. # [20:44] <@firebot> github@phees.de changed the Component on bug 1198878 from File Handling to Keyboard: Navigation.
  187. # [20:44] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198878 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — v42.0 File dialog does not support keyboard quick navigation anymore
  188. # [20:46] <@firebot> github@phees.de changed the Component on bug 1198878 from Keyboard: Navigation to Widget: Gtk.
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  205. # [22:55] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1198843 from --- to INVALID.
  206. # [22:55] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1198843 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  207. # [22:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198843 — INVALID, yzenevich@mozilla.com — Test please ignore.
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  218. # [23:44] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1198974 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  219. # [23:44] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198974 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — fix show / hide events for visibility changes
  220. # Session Close: Thu Aug 27 00:00:00 2015

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