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  1. # Session Start: Wed Sep 09 00:00:01 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  16. # [02:18] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Assignee on bug 1019432 from michael.l.comella@gmail.com to eitan@monotonous.org.
  17. # [02:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1019432 — NEW, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu] Zooming doesn't work with TalkBack enabled
  18. # [02:45] <@firebot> michael.l.comella@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(michael.l.comella@gmail.com) on bug 1019432.
  19. # [02:45] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1019432 — NEW, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu] Zooming doesn't work with TalkBack enabled
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  63. # [15:17] <~davidb> heyo
  64. # [15:18] * ~davidb shakes off the rain
  65. # [15:26] <&MarcoZ> Heyo davidb! We have nice sunny weather here, at 18 degrees C. So not too hot, very pleasant early autumn weather.
  66. # [15:26] <~davidb> nice
  67. # [15:26] <~davidb> we're having a warm spell
  68. # [15:26] <~davidb> has been up to around 30 recently
  69. # [15:27] <~davidb> should cool down tomorrow
  70. # [15:32] <~davidb> tbsaunde, do you want a review on your bug 1186536 patch?
  71. # [15:32] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1186536 — REOPENED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::Accessible::HasGenericType(mozilla::a11y::AccGenericType)
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  73. # [15:37] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Heh, we've had real autumn weather last weekend, with rain and stormy winds etc. on Saturday. But since Sunday afternoon it's been really nice, and not too hot.
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  75. # [15:37] <@tbsaunde> davidb: oops yeah
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  78. # [16:08] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from eitan@monotonous.org on bug 1182222.
  79. # [16:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182222 — NEW, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu][Androd] local menu improvements
  80. # [16:08] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1186536.
  81. # [16:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1186536 — REOPENED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::Accessible::HasGenericType(mozilla::a11y::AccGenericType)
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  83. # [16:16] <~davidb> MarcoZ, nice to hear good things about iOS FF
  84. # [16:17] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I am *so* happy about this, too! :)
  85. # [16:17] <~davidb> i want to dogfood it
  86. # [16:17] <~davidb> for an hour or so
  87. # [16:18] <&MarcoZ> Ask Stefan Ahrens. ;) And get an i device.
  88. # [16:19] <~davidb> good idea
  89. # [16:19] <~davidb> st3fan ^
  90. # [16:19] <~davidb> st3fan, got any discarded iOS devices lying around?
  91. # [16:21] <st3fan> in toronto?
  92. # [16:22] <st3fan> if you are planning to do regular testing (yes!) then please service-now an ipod touch, i can approve it i think
  93. # [16:23] <~davidb> st3fan, hmmm... i'm already foxfooding so it wouldn't be a main device, is that still ok?
  94. # [16:23] <~davidb> yes toronto
  95. # [16:24] <~davidb> (should take this to PM)
  96. # [16:24] <st3fan> let me see what i can do (i think it is important)
  97. # [16:24] <~davidb> ok
  98. # [16:24] <~davidb> (me too)
  99. # [16:24] <&MarcoZ> st3fan: Is it OK to talk about some of the VoiceOver and other accessibility stuff we did in a public blog post? Even though this is only available in some countries currently?
  100. # [16:25] <st3fan> of course
  101. # [16:25] <st3fan> i dont see why not
  102. # [16:25] <&MarcoZ> st3fan: Perfect, thanks!
  103. # [16:25] <st3fan> it will annoy people because they can't get it everywhere yet, but i think talking about it is fine
  104. # [16:26] <st3fan> MarcoZ: Open Source! :-)
  105. # [16:30] <st3fan> davidb: we do have a drawer of ios devices in toronto btw .. where madhava sits
  106. # [16:30] <~davidb> oh?
  107. # [16:30] <~davidb> lol
  108. # [16:31] <~davidb> and he's in today...
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  112. # [16:36] <~davidb> well now i know we have a 'lending drawer'
  113. # [16:47] <~davidb> MarcoZ, Gijs, you good for desktop barriersmash today?
  114. # [16:47] <Gijs> oh shoot
  115. # [16:47] <Gijs> actually no, sorry
  116. # [16:47] <Gijs> I will be on transport :s
  117. # [16:48] * Gijs has been out in Ashbourne for a meetup today
  118. # [16:48] <Gijs> going home in ~ 15 minutes
  119. # [16:48] <Gijs> so I'll be on a bus
  120. # [16:48] <Gijs> sorry!
  121. # [16:49] <&MarcoZ> davidb: No topics really that are worth chewing through again. The regressions in the address bar are being dealt with (see bug 1198683 and bug 1198687 as the last two remaining issues that just need landing now), and other stuff is largely unchanged.
  122. # [16:49] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198683 — ASSIGNED, adw — Search suggestions prompt breaks accessibility of location bar suggestions
  123. # [16:49] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198687 — ASSIGNED, adw — Search suggestions prompt unusable by screen reader users
  124. # [16:49] <~davidb> Gijs, s'ok. Can catch up in Toronto in 3 weeks
  125. # [16:49] <~davidb> MarcoZ, ok! Can you add those notes to the meeting page?
  126. # [16:49] <~davidb> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/BarrierSmash/Meetings/2015-09-09
  127. # [16:50] <~davidb> I can treat this one as an office hour - hang around for a bit see if anyone shows up.
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  129. # [16:54] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Edit done.
  130. # [16:55] <~davidb> cool
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  146. # [18:08] <@firebot> enndeakin@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(enndeakin@gmail.com) on bug 1168042.
  147. # [18:09] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1168042 — ASSIGNED, enndeakin@gmail.com — [e10s] accesskeys in content do not work when chrome is focused
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  149. # [18:38] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org cancelled needinfo?(eitan@monotonous.org) on bug 1182222.
  150. # [18:38] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182222 — NEW, eitan@monotonous.org — [AccessFu][Androd] local menu improvements
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  153. # [19:32] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ping
  154. # [19:33] <joanie> tbsaunde: pong
  155. # [19:35] <@tbsaunde> joanie: so generally e10s seems to look pretty good now, but there's this one funny case I found on planet.mozilla.org if you have some time
  156. # [19:36] <joanie> tbsaunde: I was about to switch gears, so I can switch to your funny case :)
  157. # [19:36] * joanie updates nightly
  158. # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> joanie: thanks!
  159. # [19:36] <@tbsaunde> joanie: navigate to the first heading stargint "Chris Cooper..."
  160. # [19:37] <@tbsaunde> and then start hitting up arrow and see orca gets stuck
  161. # [19:38] <joanie> tbsaunde: not for me
  162. # [19:38] <joanie> but
  163. # [19:38] <joanie> only in the past couple of days, I fixed some stuckage bugs in orca
  164. # [19:38] <joanie> so do you have the current orca master?
  165. # [19:39] <@tbsaunde> joanie: no, and if I turn --debug on its fixed
  166. # [19:39] <@tbsaunde> let me update
  167. # [19:39] <joanie> that would make sense because one of the bugs was timing related
  168. # [19:39] <joanie> and given orca's now very-verbose debugging for web content
  169. # [19:40] <joanie> that would be enough to make the problem potentially go away
  170. # [19:40] <@eeejay> davidb: ping
  171. # [19:40] <@tbsaunde> makes sense
  172. # [19:40] <~davidb> eeejay`hi
  173. # [19:41] <@eeejay> davidb: yo. do you have access to a11y telemetry for android?
  174. # [19:41] <~davidb> yes
  175. # [19:41] <@eeejay> davidb: do i?
  176. # [19:41] <~davidb> yes i think
  177. # [19:41] <@eeejay> url?
  178. # [19:42] <~davidb> checking now...
  179. # [19:44] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ok, I can't reproduce with master either :)
  180. # [19:44] <joanie> yay!
  181. # [19:44] <joanie> tbsaunde: got any more of these things I can fix in the same fashion? :P
  182. # [19:45] <@tbsaunde> joanie: and I don't know of any other issue with e10s on linux at the moment so maybe its time to try it by default
  183. # [19:45] <~davidb> eeejay, sometimes buggy... but https://telemetry.mozilla.org/dist.html
  184. # [19:45] <~davidb> eeejay, https://telemetry.mozilla.org/
  185. # [19:45] <joanie> tbsaunde: perhaps tonight I can run all of Orca's Gecko regression tests using multiprocess enabled
  186. # [19:45] * joanie makes a note to do that
  187. # [19:46] <@eeejay> davidb: does this make sense? https://telemetry.mozilla.org/new-pipeline/dist.html#!cumulative=0&end_date=2015-08-27&keys=__none__!__none__!__none__&max_channel_version=release%252F40&measure=A11Y_INSTANTIATED_FLAG&min_channel_version=null&product=Fennec&sanitize=1&sort_keys=submissions&start_date=2015-08-05&table=0&trim=1&use_submission_date=0
  188. # [19:47] <~davidb> not sure... i'm used to seeing an android option under os, best to check with vladan
  189. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> joanie: that'd be nice thanks!
  190. # [19:49] <joanie> tbsaunde: my pleasure. Thank you for working so hard on getting this done. It will be great to announce the Orca release and all the web fixes in Orca in conjunction with multiprocess firefox being fully accessible. <fingers crossed>
  191. # [20:05] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Assignee on bug 1133213 from nobody@mozilla.org to surkov.alexander@gmail.com.
  192. # [20:05] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1133213 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  193. # [20:05] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1133213 — ASSIGNED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — aria-owns should change the accessible tree
  194. # [20:15] <@eeejay> yzen: yo
  195. # [20:15] <@yzen> eeejay ho
  196. # [20:15] <@yzen> h
  197. # [20:15] <@yzen> i
  198. # [20:16] <@eeejay> want to meet?
  199. # [20:16] <@yzen> yeah
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  208. # [22:14] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Resolution on bug 1182223 from --- to WONTFIX.
  209. # [22:14] <@firebot> eitan@monotonous.org changed the Status on bug 1182223 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  210. # [22:15] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1182223 — WONTFIX, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu][Android] remove gingerbread accessibility events
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  212. # [22:41] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1203283 filed by eitan@monotonous.org.
  213. # [22:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1203283 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [AccessFu] Introduce Android "Control" traversal rule
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