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  1. # Session Start: Mon Sep 14 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  11. # [04:39] <@firebot> roc@ocallahan.org requested needinfo from jfkthame@gmail.com on bug 1198600.
  12. # [04:39] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198600 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — The behaviour of the arrow keys in right-to-left languages is confusing
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  80. # [15:26] <~davidb> heyo
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  86. # [15:42] <&MarcoZ> Heyo davidb! :)
  87. # [15:42] * &MarcoZ emerges from his dive into the newest Firefox for iOS build. :)
  88. # [15:42] <~davidb> hi hi
  89. # [15:43] <~davidb> heh
  90. # [15:43] <~davidb> MarcoZ, trying to test FF iOS last week was a comedy of errors.
  91. # [15:43] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Really? What was the problem?
  92. # [15:43] <~davidb> MarcoZ, essentially, no suitable device available
  93. # [15:44] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Ah! Hm, that's ... a pity. ;)
  94. # [15:44] <~davidb> maybe i should put a second mortgage on my house and get the latest iphone
  95. # [15:45] <&MarcoZ> LOL!
  96. # [15:46] <&MarcoZ> Speaking from experience: When you have last year's model to sell, the amount of money isn't so bad. iPhones from last year still make good prices on the market. :) But yeah, the devices are more expensive. But Samsung goes that route with their Android phones, too, nowadays.
  97. # [15:46] <~davidb> did i hear something about $400 a year and you can always have the latest iphone?
  98. # [15:47] * ~davidb shrugs
  99. # [15:47] <&MarcoZ> Yes, that's the new iPhone plan Apple are rolling out in the U.S. with the 6S and 6S Plus. Haven't heard when it will come to other countries.
  100. # [15:47] <&MarcoZ> But it's definitely a very interesting option.
  101. # [15:50] <&MarcoZ> davidb: http://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program
  102. # [15:50] <~davidb> interesting idea
  103. # [15:50] <~davidb> it is a world gone crazy
  104. # [15:51] <&MarcoZ> Indeed! And as was almost to be expected: This 3D Touch thing where you peek into content before you actually open it, will be accessible to VoiceOver. Apple even opened up to the AppleVis community portal and confirmed that pre iOS 9 launch. Whoohoo!
  105. # [15:52] <~davidb> amazing
  106. # [15:53] * ~davidb bows to the west
  107. # [15:56] <&MarcoZ> davidb: 1:1 in 5?
  108. # [15:56] <~davidb> yep
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  114. # [17:02] <~davidb> tbsaunde, just say when
  115. # [17:03] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1123360.
  116. # [17:03] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1123360 — NEW, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — exclude aria-hidden="true" elements from the tree
  117. # [17:06] <@tbsaunde> davidb: whenever
  118. # [17:06] <~davidb> tbsaunde, omw
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  142. # [20:42] <~davidb> tbsaunde, regarding bug 1204070, isn't returning false reserved for some kind of catastrophic channel failure? (that results in some cryptic crash-stats reports?)
  143. # [20:42] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1204070 — NEW, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — add a little more checking to proxy subtree removal
  144. # [20:51] <@tbsaunde> davidb: well, it kills the child, so you should only do it if the child is buggy
  145. # [20:52] <~davidb> tbsaunde, didn't it interfere with sane crash stacks before?
  146. # [20:52] <~davidb> i'm just not sure what returning false buys us in terms of diagnosis.
  147. # [20:52] <~davidb> tbsaunde, maybe billm should chime in
  148. # [20:52] <@tbsaunde> davidb: well, the real point is the if not continueing if that case is true
  149. # [20:53] <@tbsaunde> basically most of the early returns in that function should return false, but they don't to hack around bugs
  150. # [20:53] <@tbsaunde> but I theorize this one doesn't really happen in the wild so doing the right thing and returning false is ok
  151. # [20:58] <~davidb> tbsaunde, would it pain you to return true?
  152. # [20:58] <~davidb> because i'd certainly prefer it
  153. # [20:58] <~davidb> if false is going to help you somehow that is different.
  154. # [21:00] <~davidb> tbsaunde, why not MOZ_DIAGNOSTIC_ASSERT there?
  155. # [21:00] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1197181.
  156. # [21:00] <~davidb> aRootID
  157. # [21:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1197181 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessibleParent::RecvHideEvent(unsigned __int64 const&)
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  159. # [21:02] <@tbsaunde> davidb: so you'd crash theentire browser instead of just the content process? that seems kind of silly
  160. # [21:03] <~davidb> tbsaunde, as long as we will be able to understand crash-stats i will be happy.
  161. # [21:03] <~davidb> i'm just not confident given history
  162. # [21:03] <~davidb> i could be completely wrong.
  163. # [21:04] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I think somebody was going to work on the crash stats UI to make it handle the killed child process case better
  164. # [21:04] <~davidb> that is true but not sure it helps me
  165. # [21:05] <~davidb> gotta go AFK for a bit
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