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  1. # Session Start: Mon Sep 21 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  37. # [15:08] <@firebot> ananuti@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1206165 from --- to FIXED.
  38. # [15:08] <@firebot> ananuti@gmail.com changed the Status on bug 1206165 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  39. # [15:08] <@firebot> ananuti@gmail.com set status-firefox43 to fixed on bug 1206165.
  40. # [15:08] <@firebot> ananuti@gmail.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1206165 from --- to mozilla43.
  41. # [15:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1206165 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTreeOnRemoval(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*)
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  44. # [15:10] <~davidb> heyo
  45. # [15:11] * ~davidb waves to aaronlev
  46. # [15:20] <&MarcoZ> Heyo davidb!
  47. # [15:20] <&MarcoZ> I'm back in the swing of things, only got a bit remaining sniffles.
  48. # [15:21] <~davidb> that is good news
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  52. # [15:32] <~davidb> MarcoZ, i hear android (and maybe iOS) Ux will be here next week
  53. # [15:36] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Yay, lots to do and a lot of people to talk to! :)
  54. # [15:36] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I know Satefan and Margaret are travelling to MV this week.
  55. # [15:37] <~davidb> yeah
  56. # [15:40] <&MarcoZ> davidb: tbsaunde: So, with the WinEvent patch landed, is E10S now ready for primetime testing on Windows?
  57. # [15:40] * ~davidb defers
  58. # [15:41] <~davidb> funny though, i just emailed tbsaunde and smaug if it'd be ready monday
  59. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> davidb: I heard earlier that Skype was down wide-spread.
  60. # [15:41] <~davidb> hmm
  61. # [15:41] <&MarcoZ> Plan B for an 1:1, or should we defer that to tomorrow?
  62. # [15:42] <&MarcoZ> We could try WebRTC. ;) ;) ;) See if it works better than last week.
  63. # [15:42] <~davidb> heh
  64. # [15:42] <~davidb> tomorrow is a bit jammed
  65. # [15:43] <&MarcoZ> OK! I mean... It's not like we'll be speaking a lot in a few days anyway. Or do you have something urgent?
  66. # [15:43] <~davidb> nothing urgent
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  68. # [15:45] <@tbsaunde> MarcoZ: no, for one thing I still need to deal with getting accessibles by id
  69. # [15:46] <&MarcoZ> tbsaunde: Understood! Just ping me when you're ready.
  70. # [15:48] <smaug> davidb: I defer (can one say that way?) that question to tbsaunde
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  72. # [15:48] <~davidb> smaug, yep
  73. # [15:49] <smaug> and yes, skype is down for most of the user, AFAIK
  74. # [15:50] <~davidb> tbsaunde, can you remind me, are we planning to keep window emulation for a while (all in main process of course)?
  75. # [15:50] <~davidb> (for jaws, dolphin and WE)
  76. # [15:50] <~davidb> oh we still do for XRE_IsContentProcess()
  77. # [15:50] * ~davidb does more DXRing
  78. # [15:52] <~davidb> oh but we bail earlier for IPCAccessibilityActive
  79. # [15:53] <~davidb> so XRE_IsContentProcess is probably vestigal from surkov's hack
  80. # [15:55] <~davidb> tbsaunde, i'll catch you when you're in
  81. # [16:08] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1206711 filed by dbolter@mozilla.com.
  82. # [16:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1206711 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Figure out MaybeStartWindowEmulation in e10s world
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  84. # [16:14] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I expect we have to
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  86. # [16:18] <~davidb> tbsaunde, yeah I think you're right
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  92. # [16:43] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at set status-firefox43 to affected on bug 1206107.
  93. # [16:43] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at set status-firefox44 to affected on bug 1206107.
  94. # [16:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1206107 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — crash beginning in nightly 0916 in mozilla::a11y::Accessible::HasGenericType(mozilla::a11y::AccGener
  95. # [16:43] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at set status-firefox43 to affected on bug 1205476.
  96. # [16:43] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at set status-firefox44 to affected on bug 1205476.
  97. # [16:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1205476 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList()
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  100. # [16:56] <~davidb> surkov, any ideas for bug 1205476 or should we consider reverting aria-owns for now?
  101. # [16:56] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1205476 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList()
  102. # [16:57] <@surkov> davidb: I’ll do a shot on it, what is strategy behind of reverting?
  103. # [16:57] <~davidb> surkov, reverting would be to stop the crashes that seemed to be caused by that work
  104. # [16:57] <@surkov> davidb: correct, but is there relanding part in it?
  105. # [16:58] <~davidb> surkov, i'd imagine so
  106. # [16:58] <@surkov> how that would work?
  107. # [16:58] <~davidb> when is uplift?
  108. # [16:58] * ~davidb looks
  109. # [16:59] <~davidb> today?
  110. # [16:59] <@tbsaunde> davidb: think so
  111. # [16:59] <~davidb> surkov, so i guess revert until they uplift (at least)
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  114. # [17:00] <@tbsaunde> davidb: seems like it'd be hard to get it in first
  115. # [17:01] <~davidb> to central? yeah
  116. # [17:03] * ~davidb asks on bug
  117. # [17:04] <@firebot> dbolter@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1205476.
  118. # [17:05] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I'd think simplest is just ask to revert it on aurora
  119. # [17:05] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 1205476.
  120. # [17:05] <~davidb> after uplift? yeah
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  124. # [17:16] <@firebot> kairo@kairo.at cancelled needinfo?(kairo@kairo.at) on bug 1205476.
  125. # [17:16] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1205476 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList()
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  130. # [17:36] <~davidb> surkov, please note comment needs updating "// eventually died until we've got here"
  131. # [17:37] <@surkov> davidb: that’s mostly same, sutff not in the tree are stuff to destroy
  132. # [17:37] <~davidb> one would think so but still
  133. # [17:38] <@tbsaunde> well, at least the english could use some work, I have no idea how to parse that
  134. # [17:38] <~davidb> until/when
  135. # [17:39] <~davidb> or 'before'
  136. # [17:40] <@tbsaunde> davidb: I don't the context, so I can't really say what is correct
  137. # [17:40] <~davidb> ack
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  144. # [18:06] <&MarcoZ> Airlines know my blind passenger status, I contacted Gurvinder for the lift from the airport on Friday. All set for Toronto I guess! :)
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  146. # [18:13] <@yzen> surkov hi
  147. # [18:13] <@surkov> yzen: hey
  148. # [18:14] <@yzen> do you know if i have a role="radio" non native radio and i have a label element with for attribute set to the id of that element, are we expecting that non-native radio to have the name calculated correctly ?
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  150. # [18:14] <@yzen> or is it only the case for input type radio elements and their labals?
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  152. # [18:15] <@yzen> surkov ^
  153. # [18:16] <@surkov> yzen: i guess it should make a trick, but I wouldn’t do that
  154. # [18:16] <@yzen> ok so aria-label would be better ?
  155. # [18:21] <@yzen> surkov^
  156. # [18:21] <@surkov> yes
  157. # [18:22] <@yzen> thanks
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  180. # [21:41] <lizzard> hey there. I’m looking at bug 1133213 , which seems to be the cause of a couple of high volume crashes in 43 aurora (or the very tail end of 43 nightly)
  181. # [21:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1133213 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — aria-owns should change the accessible tree
  182. # [21:41] <lizzard> how do you want to handle this? would it make sense to back out the original patch on aurora (43 now) ?
  183. # [21:41] <~davidb> surkov ^
  184. # [21:42] <lizzard> then, we can uplift another fix once you have something stable on 44 nightly
  185. # [21:44] <~davidb> lizzard, FWIW our morning discussion on this starts here http://logs.glob.uno/?c=accessibility#c134794
  186. # [21:44] <lizzard> aha
  187. # [21:44] <lizzard> :)
  188. # [21:44] <~davidb> :)
  189. # [21:45] <lizzard> i am confused about why one of the crashes blocks and one depends on, bug 1133213
  190. # [21:45] <lizzard> aren’t they both caused by it (at least, the spike in both are caused by it)
  191. # [21:45] <@tbsaunde> yeah, how knows, its mostly administrivia
  192. # [21:45] <lizzard> Anyway, the merge happened already today, but updates aren’t on for Aurora. So, no one will hit this crash for aurora yet, unless they download it specially from our ftp site.
  193. # [21:46] * @tbsaunde thinks its a better idea to back it out on aurora, but shrug
  194. # [21:46] <lizzard> So my preferece is to back it out on aurora
  195. # [21:46] <~davidb> ditto
  196. # [21:46] <lizzard> i’ll just say that in the bug. i can ask a sheriff to do the backout.
  197. # [21:46] <lizzard> Mostly, i wanted to know if you all had a strenuous objection to that plan
  198. # [21:46] <~davidb> lizzard, surkov is around but might be AFK
  199. # [21:47] <~davidb> lizzard, so you are going to uplift and have someone backout 1133213 on aurora? Note there was another fix/change on top of it.
  200. # [21:47] <~davidb> i'm sure they'll catch that though
  201. # [21:47] <lizzard> oh hmm
  202. # [21:48] <lizzard> what do you mean am i going to uplift?
  203. # [21:48] <~davidb> lizzard, i mean someone will branch, sorry.
  204. # [21:48] <~davidb> i'm rusty on the vernacular
  205. # [21:48] <lizzard> i think we just need to back out https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/a252f3d0a8c9 (from comment 37)
  206. # [21:49] <@firebot> lhenry@mozilla.com requested needinfo from wkocher@mozilla.com on bug 1133213.
  207. # [21:49] <~davidb> ok thanks for being on top of this lizzard
  208. # [21:50] <lizzard> thanks for the discussion :)
  209. # [21:50] <~davidb> you bet
  210. # [21:52] * @tbsaunde sighs at windows ids for the thousandth time
  211. # [21:52] * ~davidb finally realizes the word he wanted is 'merge'
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  213. # [22:18] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1133213 from FIXED to ---.
  214. # [22:18] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1133213 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  215. # [22:18] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox43 to fixed on bug 1205476.
  216. # [22:18] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1206165 from FIXED to ---.
  217. # [22:18] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1206165 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  218. # [22:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1133213 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — aria-owns should change the accessible tree
  219. # [22:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1205476 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList()
  220. # [22:18] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1206165 — REOPENED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTreeOnRemoval(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*)
  221. # [22:20] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1133213.
  222. # [22:20] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1133213 from --- to FIXED.
  223. # [22:20] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1133213 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
  224. # [22:21] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox43 to affected on bug 1133213.
  225. # [22:21] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com set status-firefox44 to fixed on bug 1133213.
  226. # [22:22] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1205476.
  227. # [22:22] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com requested needinfo from surkov.alexander@gmail.com on bug 1206165.
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