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  1. # Session Start: Tue Sep 29 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  10. # [00:41] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1205476 from --- to FIXED.
  11. # [00:41] <@firebot> wkocher@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1205476 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
  12. # [00:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1205476 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::ProcessInvalidationList()
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  19. # [01:38] <~davidb> (hi)
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  36. # [03:19] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1208900 from --- to WONTFIX.
  37. # [03:19] <@firebot> ehsan@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1208900 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  38. # [03:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1208900 — WONTFIX, nobody@mozilla.org — Fix a null check in sdnAccessible::get_computedStyle
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  64. # [12:33] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1206165 from --- to FIXED.
  65. # [12:33] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1206165 from REOPENED to RESOLVED.
  66. # [12:33] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox44 to fixed on bug 1206165.
  67. # [12:33] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1206165 — FIXED, surkov.alexander@gmail.com — crash in mozilla::a11y::DocAccessible::UpdateTreeOnRemoval(mozilla::a11y::Accessible*, nsIContent*)
  68. # [12:34] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1209147 from --- to FIXED.
  69. # [12:34] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1209147 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  70. # [12:34] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox44 to fixed on bug 1209147.
  71. # [12:34] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1209147 from --- to mozilla44.
  72. # [12:34] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1209147 — FIXED, nobody@mozilla.org — make proxying of Accessible::TakeFocus() async
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  77. # [13:24] <blackcat> Hi, I want some kind of addon or option to manage and sync mailing lists using TB
  78. # [13:24] <blackcat> is this possible?
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  100. # [15:28] <~davidb> heyoooo
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  104. # [15:52] <~davidb> MarcoZ, catch my iOS email?
  105. # [15:52] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Let me look.
  106. # [15:54] <&MarcoZ> davidb: oh nice!
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  108. # [15:56] <~davidb> :)
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  110. # [16:03] <wsmwk> blackcat: lo and behold I found daivdb's bug 370437. We have some UI people that perhaps could make this happen. Is it really a serious UI issue in the accessibility community? (the bug comments seem to indicate that is true)
  111. # [16:03] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/370437 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — TB: Selecting and reordering columns to display (in message list pane) is not keyboard accessible (n
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  114. # [16:33] <~davidb> wsmwk, it is hard to say how serious without data but I think it would be great to get that fixed. (it is also a compliance issue)
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  122. # [16:55] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr changed the Assignee on bug 1177640 from nobody@mozilla.org to fred.wang@free.fr.
  123. # [16:55] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr changed the Status on bug 1177640 from NEW to ASSIGNED.
  124. # [16:55] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1177640 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — [Mac] Do not expose HTML table semantics for "layout" tables
  125. # [17:01] <@firebot> fred.wang@free.fr requested needinfo from mzehe@mozilla.com on bug 718637.
  126. # [17:01] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/718637 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [Mac] Firefox doesn't tell VoiceOver when a page has finished loading.
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  130. # [17:41] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(mzehe@mozilla.com) on bug 718637.
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  132. # [17:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/718637 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [Mac] Firefox doesn't tell VoiceOver when a page has finished loading.
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  134. # [17:44] <@tbsaunde> smaug: hey, what does nsGlobalWindow::GetContent() return when called on the window for a xul:browser?
  135. # [17:44] <@tbsaunde> the forground tab's top content document maybe???
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  137. # [18:05] <Gijs> MarcoZ: are you attending the push notifications meeting right now?
  138. # [18:13] <Gijs> hm, rerunning ./mach build seems to have worked fine... :s
  139. # [18:19] <smaug> tbsaunde: "maybe"
  140. # [18:19] <smaug> I think so
  141. # [18:20] <smaug> but would need to read the code
  142. # [18:20] * smaug reads
  143. # [18:22] <smaug> tbsaunde: so, treeOwner->GetPrimaryContentShell(getter_AddRefs(primaryContent));
  144. # [18:22] <smaug> which means the active tab
  145. # [18:22] <smaug> and it returns a Window, not Document
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  153. # [18:57] <@tbsaunde> smaug: yeah ok thanks
  154. # [18:57] <@tbsaunde> smaug: so how would I do something similar for e10s?
  155. # [18:57] <smaug> tbsaunde: so that in content process you access what?
  156. # [18:58] <smaug> or do you just need to access the primary "TabChild" ?
  157. # [18:58] <smaug> hmm, thinking
  158. # [18:58] * smaug asks someone else
  159. # [18:59] <smaug> s/TabChild/TabParent/
  160. # [18:59] <@tbsaunde> smaug: I need to get the primary TabParent
  161. # [19:00] <smaug> right
  162. # [19:00] <@tbsaunde> sorry, having in person chat too
  163. # [19:00] <smaug> tbsaunde: I just asked mconley in #e10s
  164. # [19:01] <@tbsaunde> smaug: don't think I'm in there let me join
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  166. # [19:07] <~davidb> yzen, http://trychooser.pub.build.mozilla.org/ ?
  167. # [19:08] <@yzen> davidb yeah i use that , i think eeejay means prompt type thing
  168. # [19:08] <~davidb> k
  169. # [19:10] <fredw> MarcoZ: what is the sound played by VoiceOver when the page is loaded? Is is different from the system beep?
  170. # [19:12] <&MarcoZ> fredw: Yes, it's a different one. It's a 3 ascending tones one.
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  172. # [19:15] <fredw> MarcoZ: I don't know where this sound comes from. I was thinking about using NSBeep (system beep) or NSSound to play a bundled file (like what we do for AccessFu: resource://gre/chrome/toolkit/content/global/accessibility/virtual_cursor_move.ogg)
  173. # [19:16] * stephend|mtg is now known as stephend
  174. # [19:17] <&MarcoZ> fredw: TBH: I would think that that Apple reply was total bogus. Having to play this sound on our own just seems plain wrong. Besides, Chrome plays the same sound as Safari does. It is the same sound VoiceOver makes on the iPhone when it receives a LayoutChangedNotification. I do not believe Safari or Chrome bundle this sound file.
  175. # [19:18] <fredw> MarcoZ: ok. I'm currently updating my chromium source...
  176. # [19:19] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1209615 filed by tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org.
  177. # [19:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1209615 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — make RootAccessible::RelationByType() work with e10s
  178. # [19:20] <@tbsaunde> smaug: ^ :)
  179. # [19:20] <smaug> hmm
  180. # [19:20] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1209616 filed by fred.wang@free.fr.
  181. # [19:20] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1209616 — NEW, fred.wang@free.fr — Remove sound files from toolkit/content/global/accessibility/
  182. # [19:21] <smaug> tbsaunde: don't understand that bug :)
  183. # [19:21] <fredw> MarcoZ: could you please try that one: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/fred.wang@free.fr-ddd787e73733/try-macosx64/firefox-44.0a1.en-US.mac.dmg
  184. # [19:21] <smaug> but I can look at the get-TabParent bit
  185. # [19:21] * smaug files another bug
  186. # [19:21] <fredw> MarcoZ: (for bug 1177640)
  187. # [19:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1177640 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — [Mac] Do not expose HTML table semantics for "layout" tables
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  189. # [19:31] <&MarcoZ> fredw: This build crashes as soon as I venture into the attachments table of any bug.
  190. # [19:33] <@tbsaunde> smaug: ok, if I can get the primary tab parent I guess I can do the rest
  191. # [19:34] <@tbsaunde> smaug: though if you just want me to explain what you don't understand I can do that too
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  196. # [19:43] <smaug> tbsaunde: I don't know what code in a11y we are dealing there
  197. # [19:43] <smaug> I guess http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/accessible/generic/RootAccessible.cpp#480
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  199. # [19:48] <fredw> MarcoZ: When you have time, can we check together the patch on bug 1177640 on your mac and see where the crash comes from?
  200. # [19:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1177640 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — [Mac] Do not expose HTML table semantics for "layout" tables
  201. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> smaug: yes
  202. # [19:49] <@tbsaunde> though how to handle this with DocAccessibleParent* seems kind of ugly :(
  203. # [19:49] <@tbsaunde> given you can't stuff one into a Relation object
  204. # [19:51] <&MarcoZ> fredw: It's the table that has the word "Attachments" in its top row. Not sure if that's a caption or a header that spans multiple columns. But that's the one that's causing the crash.
  205. # [19:53] <smaug> tbsaunde: oh, Relation isn't some state
  206. # [19:54] <@tbsaunde> smaug: not sure what you mean
  207. # [19:54] <smaug> tbsaunde: I thought it would be just some simple class indicating some sort of state, relation
  208. # [19:54] <smaug> but apparently it is quite a bit more complicated
  209. # [19:55] <@tbsaunde> smaug: well, Relation is a class that holds the objects that are related
  210. # [19:55] <@tbsaunde> so its not too complicated, but perhaps tad missnamed
  211. # [19:55] <@tbsaunde> perhaps it should be called RelationTargetSet
  212. # [20:00] <fredw> MarcoZ: what about this one (do not expose table attributes either): http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/try-builds/fred.wang@free.fr-7c4c0168457b/try-macosx64/firefox-44.0a1.en-US.mac.dmg
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  214. # [20:38] <&MarcoZ> fredw: Sorry, no luck.
  215. # [20:38] <&MarcoZ> Still crashing at same spot.
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  217. # [20:53] <Jamie> joanie: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/accessibility-ia2/2015-September/001938.html
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  220. # [21:19] <fredw> yzen: bug 1177640
  221. # [21:19] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1177640 — ASSIGNED, fred.wang@free.fr — [Mac] Do not expose HTML table semantics for "layout" tables
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  226. # [21:58] <joanie> bug 1203861
  227. # [21:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1203861 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Infinite accessible name change events when hovering mouse over certain MIME-encoded subjects
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  239. # [23:12] <@eeejay> is this menu accessible? http://www.mevamekitchenexpress.ca/assets/Kitchen%20Express%20Menu.pdf
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