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  1. # Session Start: Mon Nov 16 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  44. # [14:27] <@firebot> sledru@mozilla.com set status-firefox42 to disabled on bug 1195200.
  45. # [14:27] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1195200 — REOPENED, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] Pull down menu: Keyboard selection behavior changed
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  50. # [16:26] <~davidb> MarcoZ: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Accessibility/WebDev_Recommendations
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  52. # [16:38] <~davidb> oh and
  53. # [16:38] <~davidb> heyo
  54. # [16:42] * ~davidb coffees
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  70. # [21:09] <@tbsaunde> joanie: have some time time to help debug something with e10s and orca ofr me?
  71. # [21:10] <joanie> tbsaunde: for you? ugh. Really? <grins
  72. # [21:10] <joanie> wassup?
  73. # [21:11] <joanie> tbsaunde: that was a joke. How can I help you?
  74. # [21:12] <@tbsaunde> joanie: lol
  75. # [21:12] <@tbsaunde> joanie: in google drive (ugh) click the new button and try to inspect the popup menu
  76. # [21:12] <joanie> ok, one sec.
  77. # [21:13] <@tbsaunde> silent in e10s at least ofr me works without
  78. # [21:13] <@tbsaunde> thanks!
  79. # [21:17] <joanie> tbsaunde: according to my debug.out, in e10s, something is making it look defunct. Lemme see if it has that state or is just spitting up
  80. # [21:18] <joanie> tbsaunde: according to the code, the debug output line only appears if the object reports having STATE_DEFUNCT
  81. # [21:19] <joanie> that enough for you to debug? or you need more?
  82. # [21:19] <@tbsaunde> joanie: that's probably enough that something is defunct when it shouldn't be
  83. # [21:21] <joanie> tbsaunde: okie dokie. BTW, what is defunct are the objects of role menu item
  84. # [21:21] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ah thanks
  85. # [21:22] <joanie> and in the broken version they lack names
  86. # [21:22] <joanie> in the non-broken version they have names
  87. # [21:22] <joanie> but that might be because you said they were defunct and at-spi2 didn't try to get names as a result
  88. # [21:24] <@tbsaunde> yeah maybe
  89. # [21:25] <@tbsaunde> I'll figure out the defunct thing and see what happens if that doesn't fix it
  90. # [21:25] <joanie> ok
  91. # [21:41] <@tbsaunde> joanie: unrelatedly when I for bug 1213476 all your focus listener prints for me is http://paste.debian.net/333160/
  92. # [21:41] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1213476 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Broken accessibility tree with Dojo drop down button
  93. # [21:41] * joanie looks
  94. # [21:41] <joanie> that's odd
  95. # [21:42] <@tbsaunde> I agree
  96. # [21:43] <joanie> just tried it here and it outputs stuff as expected
  97. # [21:43] <joanie> so... I dunno
  98. # [21:43] <@tbsaunde> let me try again
  99. # [21:48] <@tbsaunde> hrm, no its just printing nothing
  100. # [21:48] <@tbsaunde> I kind of suspect pressing space on that machine just doesn't activate the thing?
  101. # [21:48] <joanie> no it activates it
  102. # [21:49] <@tbsaunde> o, then tell me why your listener doesn't print anything ;)
  103. # [21:49] <joanie> for me, in my environment, the openeing report is accurate
  104. # [21:49] <joanie> because your system is borked?
  105. # [21:49] <joanie> lemme look at the listener to see if anything jumps out
  106. # [21:50] <joanie> one possibility is that the try/except is swallowing the answer
  107. # [21:50] <joanie> why you have an exception getting swallowed that I don't experience, I dunno
  108. # [21:51] <joanie> but that would be the first thing I tried if I wanted to know: 
  109. # [21:51] <joanie> nuke the try/except and watch everything blow up
  110. # [21:51] <@tbsaunde> worth a shot
  111. # [21:51] <@tbsaunde> I totally believe you see what you reported, I just want to reproduce that :)
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  115. # [21:56] <@tbsaunde> joanie: guess what? it doesn't throw any exceptions
  116. # [21:57] <joanie> well, then add a print statement
  117. # [21:57] <joanie> btw, what is the accessible name of your firefox?
  118. # [21:57] <joanie> did you do anything to change it?
  119. # [21:57] <joanie> in your local dev environment
  120. # [21:58] <@tbsaunde> no
  121. # [21:58] <joanie> do other listeners work?
  122. # [22:00] <@tbsaunde> joanie: well atspimon pritns stuff
  123. # [22:00] <@tbsaunde> the app name is Firefox so I'd expect your listener sees it
  124. # [22:01] <joanie> I wonder if it's the defunct no-name thing then
  125. # [22:02] <joanie> why not just delete everything but printing of the event
  126. # [22:02] <joanie> print(e)
  127. # [22:02] <@tbsaunde> yeah I was about to try something like that
  128. # [22:02] <joanie> if you took out all the exception handling and also the app check
  129. # [22:02] <joanie> you'll get tracebacks from all the apps emitting signals of dead things
  130. # [22:02] <joanie> depending on your environment
  131. # [22:03] <joanie> and gnome-shell tends to spew violently
  132. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> no gnome-shell, and I plan on running it for very short
  133. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> I also kept the app name check
  134. # [22:06] <@tbsaunde> I seem to be getting events now
  135. # [22:06] <joanie> cool
  136. # [22:07] <joanie> put the push button back but leave the name out
  137. # [22:15] <@tbsaunde> joanie: ?
  138. # [22:15] <joanie> my guess is it prints nothing for you because the name is missing
  139. # [22:15] <@tbsaunde> anyway I'm not seeing any -1 index in parents, but I see some 0s
  140. # [22:16] <joanie> it's just for the color button as described in the OR
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  142. # [22:20] <@tbsaunde> joanie: so interestingly the save thing does have a name for me (though maybe not exactly the same) and all the time it has an index >= 0
  143. # [22:21] <joanie> hmmm
  144. # [22:21] <joanie> oh, wait, you want the children
  145. # [22:21] * joanie looks at the report
  146. # [22:22] <joanie> so after you press space to expand the drop down, what is the index in parent?
  147. # [22:23] <@tbsaunde> joanie: I'm not sure how to get that exactly
  148. # [22:23] <joanie> did you press Tab 6 times ?
  149. # [22:23] <@tbsaunde> I mean I'm not sure which event is for that time
  150. # [22:24] <@tbsaunde> I think so, but there seems to be 2 create push buttons for me
  151. # [22:24] <joanie> you should have three save options focused events
  152. # [22:24] <joanie> there are
  153. # [22:24] <joanie> you need to tab 6 times
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  156. # [22:27] <@tbsaunde> joanie: so I'm confused you say tab 6 times which puts me on the save options thing, but from your str I expected it to be the create thing
  157. # [22:28] <joanie> i think the dojo demo has a broken name/label
  158. # [22:28] <joanie> or not broken, but c&p fail
  159. # [22:29] <joanie> if you tab 6 times, does a button named save options get focus?
  160. # [22:29] <@tbsaunde> joanie: yes
  161. # [22:29] <joanie> good
  162. # [22:29] <joanie> press space
  163. # [22:30] <joanie> then press escape
  164. # [22:30] <joanie> what is the index in parent?
  165. # [22:30] <@tbsaunde> joanie: I was just confused because you said create in the str
  166. # [22:30] <joanie> that is what is displayed
  167. # [22:30] <joanie> and if surkov was looking at it, he'd see what I described
  168. # [22:31] <joanie> but if you look at the OR, i stareted with an explicit statement to follow the steps as written
  169. # [22:31] <joanie> ;)
  170. # [22:31] <joanie> anyhoo, what is the index in parent that you get?
  171. # [22:33] <@tbsaunde> yeah, that's fair but I trusted the name more because I'm usually impacient and hit tab before firefox is ready (this debug build is stupid slow)
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  173. # [22:40] <@tbsaunde> joanie: well opening that thing seems to trip an assert which hopefully is the same issue
  174. # [22:41] <joanie> cool
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  178. # [23:28] <@firebot> aryx.bugmail@gmx-topmail.de changed the Component on bug 1225307 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  179. # [23:28] <@firebot> aryx.bugmail@gmx-topmail.de changed the Resolution on bug 1225307 from --- to DUPLICATE.
  180. # [23:28] <@firebot> aryx.bugmail@gmx-topmail.de changed the Status on bug 1225307 from UNCONFIRMED to RESOLVED.
  181. # [23:28] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1225307 — DUPLICATE, nobody@mozilla.org — Hotkey control + enter does not affix / concatenate ".com" in address bar
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