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  1. # Session Start: Thu Dec 17 00:00:00 2015
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  10. # [00:59] <@firebot> bugs@pettay.fi changed the Resolution on bug 1203059 from WONTFIX to ---.
  11. # [01:00] <@firebot> bugs@pettay.fi changed the Status on bug 1203059 from RESOLVED to REOPENED.
  12. # [01:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1203059 — REOPENED, jgriffiths@mozilla.com — [e10s] Default shortcuts are not supressed when overridden by web-application
  13. # [02:08] <@firebot> rkothari@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jmathies@mozilla.com on bug 1198459.
  14. # [02:08] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198459 — FIXED, jmathies@mozilla.com — Disable a11y in content when we detect e10s is enabled and disable e10s on startup if a11y recently
  15. # [02:21] <@firebot> rkothari@mozilla.com requested needinfo from jmathies@mozilla.com on bug 1195200.
  16. # [02:21] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1195200 — REOPENED, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] Pull down menu: Keyboard selection behavior changed
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  59. # [11:35] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from fjestrad@hotmail.com on bug 1158604.
  60. # [11:35] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1158604 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Dynamic content is not refreshed for accessibility products
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  76. # [13:54] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(jmathies@mozilla.com) on bug 1198459.
  77. # [13:54] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198459 — FIXED, jmathies@mozilla.com — Disable a11y in content when we detect e10s is enabled and disable e10s on startup if a11y recently
  78. # [14:10] <@firebot> sledru@mozilla.com set status-firefox44 to wontfix on bug 1198459.
  79. # [14:10] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1198459 — FIXED, jmathies@mozilla.com — Disable a11y in content when we detect e10s is enabled and disable e10s on startup if a11y recently
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  82. # [14:12] <@firebot> jmathies@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(jmathies@mozilla.com) on bug 1195200.
  83. # [14:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1195200 — REOPENED, nobody@mozilla.org — [e10s] Pull down menu: Keyboard selection behavior changed
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  87. # [15:04] <@firebot> ovidiu.boca@softvision.ro changed the Component on bug 1152937 from Untriaged to Keyboard Navigation.
  88. # [15:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1152937 — UNCONFIRMED, nobody@mozilla.org — Gamepad API mapping different on OS X and Windows
  89. # [15:07] <~davidb> heyo
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  92. # [15:28] <&MarcoZ> Hi davidb!
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  95. # [15:38] <~davidb> hi hi
  96. # [15:38] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Saw my e-mail regarding the personal history? :-) :-)
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  99. # [15:50] <~davidb> yes!
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  105. # [16:28] <@firebot> ovidiu.boca@softvision.ro changed the Component on bug 1143122 from Untriaged to Disability Access APIs.
  106. # [16:28] <@firebot> ovidiu.boca@softvision.ro changed the Product on bug 1143122 from Firefox to Core.
  107. # [16:28] <@firebot> ovidiu.boca@softvision.ro changed the Status on bug 1143122 from UNCONFIRMED to NEW.
  108. # [16:28] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1143122 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Firefox on Mac with VoiceOver fails to say the letter as you type in any text input field
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  110. # [16:37] <@tbsaunde> joanie: hey, what was the bug for that thunderbird hang involving tooltips?
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  115. # [17:16] <@tbsaunde> bobowen: so how is it going?
  116. # [17:17] <bobowen> OK thanks
  117. # [17:17] <bobowen> tbsaunde: haven't got all that far on accessibility things, I'm going to write up the general approach we talked about in Orlando
  118. # [17:18] <@tbsaunde> bobowen: just to try and get things straight in your head?
  119. # [17:18] <bobowen> tbsaunde: I'll do this by email if you like, as I think you said that works fairly well for you
  120. # [17:18] <bobowen> tbsaunde: exactly yes :)
  121. # [17:19] <@tbsaunde> yeah, email's good irc is good, basically anything but video type things, and those are okish while I'm in an office
  122. # [17:20] <bobowen> tbsaunde: OK I thought you mentioned that etherpad wasn't great
  123. # [17:20] <@tbsaunde> oh, its ok for reading, but editing doesn't work afaict
  124. # [17:21] <bobowen> tbsaunde: right so I'll steer clear of that, how about google docs?
  125. # [17:22] <@tbsaunde> bobowen: that's worse ;)
  126. # [17:22] <bobowen> tbsaunde: email it is then :)
  127. # [17:22] <@tbsaunde> heh yeah, I forgot about those things since I avoid them
  128. # [17:23] <bobowen> tbsaunde: I need to re-read that email thread with Dominic, there was some useful information in there and I think I have a couple of questions for him as well
  129. # [17:24] <bobowen> probably be tomorrow
  130. # [17:24] <@tbsaunde> bobowen: fair enough, I maybe able to answer questions faster depending on what they are
  131. # [17:25] <bobowen> bobowen: OK, I'll run them past you in irc if you're around
  132. # [17:26] <@tbsaunde> heh
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  136. # [18:13] <@firebot> miket@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(miket@mozilla.com) on bug 1203059.
  137. # [18:13] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1203059 — REOPENED, jgriffiths@mozilla.com — [e10s] Default shortcuts are not supressed when overridden by web-application
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  140. # [18:53] <@firebot> yzenevich@mozilla.com requested needinfo from cbook@mozilla.com on bug 1220860.
  141. # [18:53] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1220860 — FIXED, yzenevich@mozilla.com — [AccessFu] Error (intermediate value).documentElement is undefined resource://gre/modules/accessibil
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  144. # [19:37] <@tbsaunde> surkov: ping
  145. # [19:37] <@surkov> tbsaunde: pong
  146. # [19:37] <@tbsaunde> surkov: so, I was looking at getting rid of InvalidateChildren
  147. # [19:37] <@tbsaunde> and I'm most of the way there
  148. # [19:38] <@tbsaunde> but I realized that the last part basically requires dding support for reparenting objects, because that is more or less what InvalidateChildren() allowed to happen before
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  150. # [19:40] <@tbsaunde> surkov: and I'd really rather not support that
  151. # [19:41] <@surkov> destroy and recreate?
  152. # [19:45] <@tbsaunde> surkov: yeah, I guess we could do that, and that kind of seems more correct
  153. # [19:46] <@surkov> I think it’s rather a bad idea. Ideally I wanted to move the trees around the tree, since layout may us to invalidatae huge portions of the document without any need
  154. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> surkov: I suppose that's possible, but I'm not particularly convinced the current implementation would be correct if you did
  155. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> that
  156. # [19:48] <@tbsaunde> so without some sort of evidence its important to optimize I'd rather not try and be clever
  157. # [19:49] <@surkov> it’s not, iirc I implemented it the fast way hoping we can make it right one day
  158. # [19:50] <@surkov> tree update is our biggest problem and we do get report ocaciaonally about that
  159. # [19:51] <@surkov> I meant performance related complains
  160. # [19:51] <@surkov> also people set ARIA on top of whole subtrees and ideally we shouldn’t recreate the subtree in this case
  161. # [19:51] <@tbsaunde> I'm not sure that's true, I think joanie would say its stuff around text probably ;)
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