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  1. # Session Start: Wed Jan 27 00:00:00 2016
  2. # Session Ident: #accessibility
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  27. # [11:43] <@firebot> New Core - Disability Access APIs bug 1243331 filed by mh+mozilla@glandium.org.
  28. # [11:43] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1243331 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [gcc 4.8] error: typedef '_GStaticAssertCompileTimeAssertion_0' locally defined but not used [-Werro
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  30. # [12:04] <@firebot> faulkner.steve@gmail.com requested needinfo from mzehe@mozilla.com on bug 945194.
  31. # [12:04] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/945194 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Add accessibles that have aria-hidden="false" to the tree even if HTML5 hidden or CSS hidden or disp
  32. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1241453 from --- to FIXED.
  33. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1241453 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  34. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox47 to fixed on bug 1241453.
  35. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1241453 from --- to mozilla47.
  36. # [12:09] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1241453 — FIXED, tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org — start exposing proxied accessibles to js
  37. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 1242616 from --- to FIXED.
  38. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 1242616 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED.
  39. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com set status-firefox47 to fixed on bug 1242616.
  40. # [12:09] <@firebot> cbook@mozilla.com changed the Target Milestone on bug 1242616 from --- to mozilla47.
  41. # [12:09] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1242616 — FIXED, bobowen.code@gmail.com — Missing break in nsWindow.cpp WM_GETOBJECT handling.
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  54. # [14:57] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com cancelled needinfo?(mzehe@mozilla.com) on bug 945194.
  55. # [14:57] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Resolution on bug 945194 from --- to WONTFIX.
  56. # [14:58] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com changed the Status on bug 945194 from NEW to RESOLVED.
  57. # [14:58] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/945194 — WONTFIX, nobody@mozilla.org — Add accessibles that have aria-hidden="false" to the tree even if HTML5 hidden or CSS hidden or disp
  58. # [15:00] <@firebot> mzehe@mozilla.com requested needinfo from tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org on bug 1243331.
  59. # [15:00] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1243331 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [gcc 4.8] error: typedef '_GStaticAssertCompileTimeAssertion_0' locally defined but not used [-Werro
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  67. # [15:37] <@firebot> surkov.alexander@gmail.com cancelled needinfo?(surkov.alexander@gmail.com) on bug 945194.
  68. # [15:37] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/945194 — WONTFIX, nobody@mozilla.org — Add accessibles that have aria-hidden="false" to the tree even if HTML5 hidden or CSS hidden or disp
  69. # [15:50] <~davidb> heyooo
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  76. # [17:22] <~davidb> doh!
  77. # [17:22] <~davidb> BS meeting time
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  79. # [17:31] <scott_gonzalez> Is anyone available to discuss focus handling for draggable elements in jQuery UI?
  80. # [17:32] <scott_gonzalez> We've got a few bug reports and I'm not sure what the best implementation would be. It's possible that these bugs reports are actually not bugs. But I can't come up with any native HTML equivalent.
  81. # [17:32] <~davidb> eeejay: optional meeting ping
  82. # [17:33] <~davidb> scott_gonzalez: probably more activity in this channel in about 90 minutes. (meetings and lunch)
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  84. # [17:35] <scott_gonzalez> ok
  85. # [17:38] <~davidb> scott_gonzalez: you probably know about http://access.aol.com/dhtml-style-guide-working-group/#draganddrop
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  87. # [17:40] <scott_gonzalez> Yeah, what I'm wondering about is mouse interactions on a draggable element and what should happen to the already focused element.
  88. # [17:48] <@firebot> tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org cancelled needinfo?(tbsaunde+mozbugs@tbsaunde.org) on bug 1243331.
  89. # [17:48] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1243331 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — [gcc 4.8] error: typedef '_GStaticAssertCompileTimeAssertion_0' locally defined but not used [-Werro
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  93. # [18:31] <~davidb> scott_gonzalez: yeah I think we would be carving the path on what to do.
  94. # [18:31] <~davidb> in general i like focus being intuitive, and so to follow the mouse
  95. # [18:32] <~davidb> but hard to be clear without detailed use case
  96. # [18:33] <scott_gonzalez> About to eat lunch, but here's the native example I have:
  97. # [18:33] <scott_gonzalez> If you focus the location bar in your browser, then drag the browser window, focus does not move.
  98. # [18:33] <scott_gonzalez> Now there are all kinds of scenarios to consider.
  99. # [18:33] <~davidb> what happens with file drags on mac?
  100. # [18:33] <~davidb> when you drag into nested folders that open on dwell
  101. # [18:36] <scott_gonzalez> That's a good point. As soon as you mousedown on a file, it gets focus.
  102. # [18:36] <scott_gonzalez> But a browser window itself doesn't get focus.
  103. # [18:39] <~davidb> yeah on linux that probably varies by window manager
  104. # [18:39] <~davidb> we need to decide on a 'window' manager for the web
  105. # [18:40] <~davidb> (we/someone)
  106. # [18:48] <scott_gonzalez> back from eating
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  108. # [18:48] <scott_gonzalez> Heh, so I generally use Firefox implementations as a guidance.
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  110. # [18:52] <scott_gonzalez> Oh, so I was actually wrong about what happens with files.
  111. # [18:52] <scott_gonzalez> And here comes a whole new can of worms.
  112. # [18:52] <scott_gonzalez> Mousedown doesn't focus the file.
  113. # [18:52] <scott_gonzalez> Mouseup does.
  114. # [18:53] <scott_gonzalez> There's a certain distance that you must move your mouse with the button pressed before the file actually starts dragging.
  115. # [18:53] <scott_gonzalez> And if you reach that threshold before releasing the button, then focus does not move off of the previous file.
  116. # [18:54] <scott_gonzalez> So if you actually start a drag, but then cancel, the previous focused file stays focused.
  117. # [18:54] <scott_gonzalez> If you start a drag and complete the drag, the dragged item in the new location gains focus.
  118. # [18:59] <~davidb> nice
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  131. # [20:26] <~davidb> (fwiw today's brantina gets a davidb thumbs up)
  132. # [20:33] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Oh you watched the speaker series thing?
  133. # [20:34] <~davidb> MarcoZ: yeah
  134. # [20:34] <~davidb> MarcoZ: had a quick pinpong game with yura so just stayed there after for the talk
  135. # [20:34] <~davidb> i expect it was recorded
  136. # [20:35] <&MarcoZ> Cool!
  137. # [20:36] <&MarcoZ> davidb: Would you mind working that coffee machine for me?
  138. # [20:36] <~davidb> not at all
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  141. # [21:25] <&MarcoZ> Soooooo tired. Damn jet lag...
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  146. # [22:29] <&MarcoZ> For an example of an accessible debugger, I was just suggested to look at Eclipse. Where's the alcohol?
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  148. # [22:51] <@firebot> gijskruitbosch+bugs@gmail.com changed the Component on bug 1243353 from General to Keyboard Navigation.
  149. # [22:51] <@firebot> https://bugzil.la/1243353 — NEW, nobody@mozilla.org — Make the "Report errors like this" option keyboard accessible on the cert error page
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