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  1. # Session Start: Fri Jul 11 00:00:00 2008
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:02] <Bert> I was thinking of the various Hn, but yes, there are still designers who decrease the BODY font size :-(
  4. # [00:03] <Bert> We need to find a way to make that ineffective, because I don't like to have to set the minimum font size (almost) equal to the medium font size...
  5. # [00:07] <Bert> I was thinking browsers could, rather than clip at the minimum size, multiply all sizes on a page by the same factor in such a way that the smallest font on the page is the mapped to the user's chosen minimum.
  6. # [00:07] <Bert> That keeps the relation between sizes intact, and doesn't break designs that are specified in ems.
  7. # [00:09] <anne> i use ctrl+scrolling a lot to zoom in or out
  8. # [00:11] * bjoern lets IE6 ignore font families and font sizes, and is very annoyed that CTRL + + no longer works in Opera 9.5 (it used to zoom in big steps, now it's the same as +).
  9. # [00:12] <Bert> Yes, me too. (Well, I don't use the mouse for that, but the same idea.) But the browser could zoom automatically.
  10. # [00:13] <Bert> Not very familiar with Opera's keys. I noticed 67890 keys don't work anymore, but that's maybe just as well.
  11. # [00:13] <anne> we disabled single key shortcuts
  12. # [00:13] <anne> you can enable them somehow
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  27. # [20:01] <fantasai> Bert: The best I can come up with to replace before/after is above/below.
  28. # [20:01] <fantasai> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/above http://www.thefreedictionary.com/below
  29. # [20:02] <fantasai> I am not sure if that is better, though
  30. # [20:02] <Bert> I've been looking though a thesaurus as well, but didn't find anything useful.
  31. # [20:03] <Bert> "Ahead" is a direction that is logical rather than physical,
  32. # [20:03] <Bert> but, like start, it's not clear which one it is.
  33. # [20:04] <Bert> Something involving time (earlier/later) doesn't seem to work either.
  34. # [20:05] <Bert> I've even tried using A, B, C, D, trying to go more abstract, rather than less.
  35. # [20:05] <Bert> (Car vendors seem to talk about the A, B and C parts of car windows.)
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  37. # [20:39] <fantasai> heh
  38. # [20:40] <fantasai> I thought about time, too.
  39. # [20:41] <fantasai> ahead/behind is possible, perhaps.. doesn't work so well for within a line box, though
  40. # [20:42] <fantasai> we should maybe discuss this at an F2F, settle on some terms, define them, and then use them consistently
  41. # [20:42] <fantasai> waiting on CSS3 Text Layout isn't going to work
  42. # [20:51] <Bert> That's a pity though. I'd much rather see that one done than, say transformations or namespaces or backgrounds.
  43. # [21:11] <bjoern_h> http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/linking.html#SVGFragmentIdentifiers defines what view is established by fragment identifers, specifically "If the SVG fragment identifier addresses any element other than a 'view' element, then the document defined by the closest ancestor 'svg' element is displayed in the viewport using the view specification attributes on that 'svg' element."
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