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  1. # Session Start: Tue May 19 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  12. # [10:14] * fantasai waves to jdaggett
  13. # [10:15] <jdaggett> greetings!
  14. # [10:15] <jdaggett> you're in sf?
  15. # [10:15] <jdaggett> mighty late, no?
  16. # [10:15] <fantasai> actually, I'm on the East Coast
  17. # [10:15] <fantasai> even later
  18. # [10:15] * fantasai realizes her clock's on SF time
  19. # [10:15] <fantasai> huh
  20. # [10:16] <fantasai> I didn't know it was that late
  21. # [10:16] <jdaggett> heh
  22. # [10:16] <fantasai> heh
  23. # [10:16] * fantasai is fiddling with float continuations
  24. # [10:16] * jdaggett has a headache from thinking about bolder/lighter...
  25. # [10:18] * jdaggett but nothing fresh air won't clear
  26. # [10:18] <jdaggett> hey, so what's the process for pushing out a working draft
  27. # [10:18] <jdaggett> ?
  28. # [10:20] <fantasai> typing that up right now :)
  29. # [10:20] <jdaggett> ah, many thanks
  30. # [10:21] <fantasai> alright, sent
  31. # [10:21] <fantasai> are you using the preprocessor?
  32. # [10:21] * jdaggett reading...
  33. # [10:24] <jdaggett> what's the difference between "ordinary working draft" and "first public working draft"?
  34. # [10:26] <fantasai> FPWD triggers extra process
  35. # [10:26] <fantasai> they have to allocate a new specname
  36. # [10:26] <fantasai> and it triggers patent clocks
  37. # [10:26] <jdaggett> ah, ok
  38. # [10:26] <fantasai> yours is an "ordinary working draft"
  39. # [10:26] <fantasai> since it's a continuation of previous wds
  40. # [10:47] * Bert ownders what a float continuation is... The 2nd part of a float that is broken accros pages?
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  42. # [10:58] <fantasai> Bert: actually, that's exactly correct :)
  43. # [10:59] <Bert> Ah, not asleep yet?
  44. # [10:59] <fantasai> heh, no
  45. # [11:00] <Bert> I sometimes wonder if we can put something on the page break itself, an automatic "p.t.o." or "cont'd on page 8"
  46. # [11:00] <fantasai> we've got automatic borders, right? :)
  47. # [11:00] <fantasai> but we could probably do that with a pseudo-element
  48. # [11:01] <Bert> Yes, but it's still quite a leap.
  49. # [11:03] <Bert> Rather than a pseudo-element, I was thinking of the text-ellipsis pattern we have for overflow. But anyway, you should sleep, and I have other work to do :-)
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  61. # [14:43] <annevk> fantasai, yt?
  62. # [14:44] <annevk> fantasai, how does text-overflow behave when there's vertical overflow?
  63. # [14:44] <annevk> (if anyone else can answer that'd be cool too, of course)
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  80. # [19:50] <fantasai> annevk: no effect
  81. # [19:51] <fantasai> at least, I don't think there's any
  82. # [19:53] <annevk> see also my email to www-style
  83. # [19:53] <annevk> we'd like an effect
  84. # [20:06] <fantasai> makes sense to me
  85. # [20:06] <fantasai> given what it's used for most times, I'd like to see that as the default, actually
  86. # [20:06] <fantasai> i.e. only applying to the last line
  87. # [20:06] <fantasai> and getting triggered by overflow in either direction
  88. # [20:08] * fantasai thinks
  89. # [20:08] <fantasai> I guess I can see use cases for both
  90. # [20:10] <annevk> can you construct a scenario where you get both?
  91. # [20:18] <fantasai> pre
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  93. # [20:45] <glazou> hi there
  94. # [20:48] <annevk> fantasai, what would be the desired effect then?
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  96. # [21:16] <fantasai> annevk: Might want markers at the edge of the screen to show which lines got cut off
  97. # [21:16] <fantasai> annevk: I see that in text editors sometimes
  98. # [21:17] <annevk> how would that work with text-overflow ?
  99. # [21:17] <annevk> and usually editors allow you to get to the text in some way, afaict
  100. # [21:21] <fantasai> well, in Mozilla you can usually get to hidden content if you can scroll some other way
  101. # [21:21] <fantasai> also if overflow: scroll and text-overflow applies
  102. # [21:21] <fantasai> I know it doesn't in IE, I remember someone suggesting that it does
  103. # [21:21] <fantasai> s/does/should/
  104. # [21:22] <fantasai> there's a long post bout this property on www-style from awhile back
  105. # [21:22] <fantasai> I'm sure it covers a lot of issues
  106. # [21:22] <fantasai> I never got around to incorporating it into the spec
  107. # [21:22] <annevk> oh, you want to change how it works? hmm
  108. # [21:23] <fantasai> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Aug/0271.html
  109. # [21:23] <fantasai> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2008Aug/0119.html
  110. # [21:24] <fantasai> I think that discussion originated off a Mozilla bug
  111. # [21:24] <annevk> k
  112. # [21:25] <fantasai> we should maybe put it on the f2f topics list
  113. # [21:25] <fantasai> about time we got a spec for this thing
  114. # [21:25] <fantasai> (the old one being mostly useless)
  115. # [21:36] <annevk> the new one is not particularly useful either :p
  116. # [21:42] <fantasai> the new one doesn't exist :)
  117. # [21:42] <fantasai> so of course it's not useful
  118. # [21:49] <annevk> i.e. the one in the editor's draft
  119. # [21:52] <fantasai> eh, yeah, that's just to hold the syntax, since the syntax is stable even though the behavior isn't really defined
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