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  1. # Session Start: Fri Oct 02 00:00:01 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  15. # [03:46] <MikeSmith> fantasai: you around? I wanted to ask if the CSS WG had ever discussed providing commenters with the option to comment/report bugs through the W3C bugzilla.
  16. # [03:46] <MikeSmith> or plinss ?
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  30. # [08:28] <MikeSmith> issue-13?
  31. # [08:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-13
  32. # [08:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-13 -- Remove 'background-origin' -- CLOSED
  33. # [08:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/Tracker/issues/13
  34. # [08:29] <fantasai> MikeSmith: no
  35. # [08:29] <fantasai> MikeSmith: we never discussed using Bugzilla for anything, at least not seriously
  36. # [08:30] <fantasai> MikeSmith: If we wanted to open up issue tracking, we'd probably do it through the wiki, because tracker is locked down
  37. # [08:31] <MikeSmith> fantasai: wiki doesn't seem like the best way to report minor editorial stuff
  38. # [08:31] <MikeSmith> fantasai: OK if I raise an issue suggesting use of bugzilla?
  39. # [08:31] <fantasai> MikeSmith: sure, but why?
  40. # [08:32] <fantasai> MikeSmith: If you want to report minor editorial stuff, just send it to the list
  41. # [08:32] <fantasai> MikeSmith: we don't get enough of that for the extra traffic to make a difference
  42. # [08:32] <MikeSmith> I see
  43. # [08:32] <fantasai> MikeSmith: and a lot of times people's idea of "minor editorial stuff" is "minor tweaks in wording that can have substantive impact"
  44. # [08:33] <MikeSmith> yeah, true
  45. # [08:36] <MikeSmith> fantasai: but for a case like this -- a group I'm not involved it really at all, but just want to report one comment on one small part of a particular spec -- I personally would prefer to be able to do it through a familiar bug-tracker mechanism
  46. # [08:37] <MikeSmith> I think that's not just me, but representative of a lot of people -- especially people who are accustomed to reporting browser bugs
  47. # [09:23] <fantasai> most people don't want to create a new account
  48. # [09:24] <fantasai> and I don't think it's accurate to say that most people who will be reporting errors to the CSSWG are comfortable with Bugzilla
  49. # [09:24] <fantasai> Mozilla contributors are
  50. # [09:24] <fantasai> but that's not everyone
  51. # [09:24] <fantasai> however, everyone already has an email account
  52. # [09:24] <fantasai> and knows how to use it
  53. # [09:25] <fantasai> if it's really like a typo or something, then send it directly to the editor if you don't want to send to www-style
  54. # [09:25] <fantasai> but bugzilla is not a good place for discussions, which is what most of the comments we get turn into,
  55. # [09:25] <fantasai> and it's not something that WG members will want to track
  56. # [09:25] <fantasai> that's a lot of overhead for your convenience
  57. # [09:26] <fantasai> Btw, even if I'm reporting into a Bugzilla instance, I will often avoid it if it means I have to create a new account
  58. # [09:26] <fantasai> you might already have a w3c bugzilla account but you're a rarity
  59. # [09:27] <fantasai> if you wanted to shift all our issue tracking into bugzilla, well, that's something you can suggest
  60. # [09:27] <fantasai> but just for editorial comments?
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  62. # [09:28] <fantasai> MikeSmith: I don't really see why you should be bothered by CSSWG being a group you're not involved in. www-style is open to everyone
  63. # [09:29] <fantasai> and if all you have to contribute is the report of a few typos once every other year
  64. # [09:29] <fantasai> that's totally ok
  65. # [09:30] <fantasai> and like I said, if you're bothered by it being too public, if the spec's actively edited you can also email the spec editors directly
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  68. # [10:49] <MikeSmith> fantasai: I hear you. I guess I'm biased to bug trackers because that's what I'm used to from having spent most of my time in product development
  69. # [10:50] <MikeSmith> but anyway, in this case I just ended up e-mail one of the editors (anne) about it directly and CC'ing www-archive so that anybody else who might want to can comment
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