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  1. # Session Start: Tue Jun 15 00:00:00 2010
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  4. # [00:47] <fantasai> plinss_: Internal Server Error on svn-view? http://test.csswg.org/svn-view/
  5. # [01:39] <plinss_> hmpf. looking at it.
  6. # [01:49] <plinss_> fixed. don't know how it happened but viewvc.cgi lost all permissions... weird
  7. # [01:52] <plinss_> even weirder is that the query.cgi file in the same directory was fine
  8. # [01:52] <plinss_> and weirder than that is both the current v1.1.5 and the old v1.0.6 had the same issue
  9. # [01:54] <plinss_> I have to think the hosting company did that to us... but don't know why
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  42. # [22:46] <fantasai> dbaron: Did you have some plan for keeping Mozilla's reftest submissions in sync with the hg repository, or should I just assume that they've been forked?
  43. # [22:51] <dbaron> fantasai, no plan, though I'd prefer not to fork, and it's easier to edit on the mozilla side since they're script-converted to the W3C format
  44. # [22:52] <jgraham> Oh are CSS actually using reftests now? Intersting
  45. # [22:52] <jgraham> Where is the W3C format documented?
  46. # [22:54] <fantasai> jgraham: http://wiki.csswg.org/test/reftest
  47. # [22:55] <fantasai> dbaron: are those scripts in hg?
  48. # [22:55] * fantasai is fine with editing in hg and exporting, but needs to do this today
  49. # [22:56] <fantasai> jgraham: Although I need to tweak that a bit since we're not actually using a reftest subdir
  50. # [22:56] * fantasai wrote that up as notes to self when writing the build scripts
  51. # [22:56] <dbaron> fantasai, they're not in hg
  52. # [22:56] <jgraham> So you are now enabling the advanced features of the Mozilla reftest format like delaying the screenshots?
  53. # [22:57] <fantasai> jgraham: no
  54. # [22:57] <fantasai> jgraham: just straight-up equality comparisons atm
  55. # [22:57] <fantasai> jgraham: we can do fancy stuff later if needed, but probably not in time for 2.1
  56. # [22:58] <jgraham> I guess for 2.1 it is fine as is
  57. # [22:58] <jgraham> But some more dynamic stuff will presumably need more complexity
  58. # [22:58] <fantasai> yeah
  59. # [22:59] <fantasai> I heard the reftest manifest format is changing, also
  60. # [22:59] <fantasai> definitely don't want to add fancy stuff right before that happens!
  61. # [23:00] <jgraham> I think Mozilla are going JSON
  62. # [23:00] <fantasai> right
  63. # [23:00] <jgraham> The plan is to stay in sync with that?
  64. # [23:00] <fantasai> eventually, I would think so
  65. # [23:00] <jgraham> OK
  66. # [23:00] <fantasai> dbaron: Can you put them in hg?
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  68. # [23:00] <jgraham> fantasai: Thanks
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  70. # [23:01] <dbaron> Not right now
  71. # [23:01] <fantasai> jgraham: One of the advantages of having tests at w3c is so that vendors can share them
  72. # [23:01] <dbaron> I'm trying to hold 2 bug fixes in my head that I need towrite down
  73. # [23:01] <fantasai> dbaron: when?
  74. # [23:01] <fantasai> ok
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  76. # [23:02] <fantasai> jgraham: reftests aren't well-established elsewhere yet, so if Mozilla's changing formats we should match them
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  78. # [23:09] <dbaron> fantasai, there wasn't really a script... it was just a list of which tests to include, and then a single command that ran each one through html2xhtml.py, which I can email you
  79. # [23:09] <dbaron> fantasai, emailed
  80. # [23:10] <dbaron> jgraham, I don't think Mozilla is going JSON.
  81. # [23:12] <fantasai> dbaron: so how about I run the conversion in Mozilla's repository instead of having to run it every time we need to sync?
  82. # [23:12] <dbaron> fantasai, no
  83. # [23:12] <dbaron> fantasai, I want Mozilla's tests to be in the format that actually matters.
  84. # [23:12] <dbaron> fantasai, Reducing the input space is bad.
  85. # [23:12] <dbaron> fantasai, the variation in test styles from different test authors, etc., gives us better test coverage
  86. # [23:12] <fantasai> dbaron, I don't understand
  87. # [23:12] <fantasai> dbaron, ok
  88. # [23:16] <fantasai> dbaron, have you made any changes to those tests since importing, or would reimporting them give the same results?
  89. # [23:17] <jgraham> dbaron: Oh, there was some blog post that suggested you were. Maybe the interets were wrong
  90. # [23:17] <jgraham> *internets
  91. # [23:26] <fantasai> dbaron, also do you have the list of tests to export, or should I just make one?
  92. # [23:27] <dbaron> jgraham, we're arguing about it
  93. # [23:27] <dbaron> fantasai, I don't think they've changed
  94. # [23:28] <dbaron> fantasai, and the list is in http://hg.mozilla.org/users/dbaron_mozilla.com/patches-clean/raw-file/9b79254a7fe5/css21-contribute-temp-manifests
  95. # [23:28] <dbaron> fantasai, you probably don't want to re-import the amnifests
  96. # [23:28] <dbaron> fantasai, and I added one test in a different directory rather than make anew one, but that could be changed
  97. # [23:29] <dbaron> fantasai, back in a bit
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