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  17. # [09:34] <anne> fantasai, where do we host CSS tests now?
  18. # [09:35] <anne> fantasai, might be nice to ask for a directory on http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ if mercurial is going to be the next best thing
  19. # [09:35] <anne> fantasai, also means we have tests hosted on test.w3.org
  20. # [09:57] <anne> I used test.csswg.org for now
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  23. # [13:36] <fantasai> anne: yeah, test.csswg.org is where we're hosting tests
  24. # [13:38] <fantasai> anne: I'm ok with mirroring into Mercurial, but I don't think we should switch systems
  25. # [13:39] <fantasai> anne: for what we're doing, subversion is a better fit
  26. # [13:48] <anne> well, as I understand it Mercurial would be nicer for vendors also using mercurial
  27. # [13:48] <anne> but it does not matter much
  28. # [13:51] <fantasai> I think Mercurial beats svn for code development hands down, but for tests we've got different constraints
  29. # [13:51] <fantasai> e.g. we need partial checkouts, because most people don't want to download the entire CSS2.1 test suite to work on something else
  30. # [13:52] <fantasai> we need good GUI support, because we have contributors who aren't comfortable with commandline
  31. # [13:52] <fantasai> we need something easy to understand, which the dvcs model is not, for contributors who are not as technical
  32. # [13:54] <fantasai> And the things that mercurial is really good at, aren't things we particularly need
  33. # [14:41] * jgraham notes that HTMLWG is using Mercurial
  34. # [14:41] <jgraham> It would be nice not to have two different systems
  35. # [14:42] <jgraham> and many DVCS system advantages are relevant here e.g. contributers can use version control when they write their own tests
  36. # [14:42] <jgraham> and then push all their changes
  37. # [14:43] <jgraham> I believe there are also GUIs for mercurial
  38. # [14:43] <jgraham> e.g. http://tortoisehg.bitbucket.org/
  39. # [14:45] <jgraham> Partial downloads are nice but it's not really like teh CSS testsuite will be huge
  40. # [14:47] <anne> well it will be pretty big, but not gigabytes big so I guess that's ok
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  46. # [15:31] <fantasai> jgraham, anne: The CSS2.1 test suite alone is 50MB, and that's zipped and compressed into a single directory to remove duplicate support files
  47. # [15:33] <anne> that's pretty small imo
  48. # [15:33] <jgraham> fantasai: How big is it as a repository?
  49. # [15:33] <anne> we're no longer on dial up :)
  50. # [15:34] <fantasai> anne: True. This is the first year I'm on ADSL here. :P
  51. # [15:34] <anne> well "there" is a special place :)
  52. # [15:34] <fantasai> :)
  53. # [15:37] <fantasai> jgraham: A checkout of the repository is 267MB
  54. # [15:38] <fantasai> jgraham: I don't know where the actual repository is
  55. # [15:39] * fantasai expects the number of tests to double within the next 2 years
  56. # [15:41] <jgraham> fantasai: In svn or mercurial?
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  62. # [18:25] <fantasai> jgraham: in the CSS repository
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