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  1. # Session Start: Thu Sep 09 00:00:00 2010
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  21. # [05:17] <fantasai> tabatkins: Hey Tab, got some time tomorrow to set up some systems?
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  25. # [07:19] <boblet> fantasai: thanks for the tweet :)
  26. # [07:19] <boblet> so no events then eh? will you be being a tourist?
  27. # [07:19] <kennyluck> boblet: Let's go to Odaiba :)
  28. # [07:20] <boblet> lol :)
  29. # [07:21] <boblet> fantasai: I’m not planning on visiting this month (if there was some big event maybe I could tho), but I’m in Osaka so if you want a guide for Kyoto, Nara let me know
  30. # [07:22] <boblet> kennyluck: will you be doing some Tokyo guiding eh?
  31. # [07:22] <kennyluck> boblet: Sure, that's say.... hot spring museum?
  32. # [07:22] <kennyluck> s/that/let/
  33. # [07:24] <boblet> where’s that? or do you mean going to Mike’s sento?
  34. # [07:25] <kennyluck> boblet: some really fun place I discovered recently. I don't think Mike's got a sento, does he?
  35. # [07:30] <boblet> kennyluck: ooh sounds interesting. Mike has a pretty good sento near his place
  36. # [07:31] <kennyluck> boblet: Oh, OK. I thought you meant he OWNS a sento. :)
  37. # [07:31] <kennyluck> ... that will be super cool too
  38. # [07:31] <boblet> mike? own a sento? in his dreams no doubt :)
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  43. # [08:28] * Set by fantasai on Mon Aug 02 00:49:50
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  51. # [14:17] <fantasai> boblet: No events that I know of. :) Dunno about touristing plans. Maybe on the weekends. There's a bridge I want to see, though.
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  68. # [21:45] <tabatkins> fantasai: What do you mean "set up some systems"?
  69. # [22:29] <fantasai> tabatkins: e.g. public access to Tetra's source code, maybe figure out the test harness
  70. # [22:31] <tabatkins> kk
  71. # [22:40] <tabatkins> fantasai: You have any preferred way of exposing the source?
  72. # [22:53] <fantasai> tabatkins: source control?
  73. # [22:53] <fantasai> tabatkins: I'd use hg because I'm most familiar with it, but if you really want to use git I can try to learn it
  74. # [22:53] <fantasai> tabatkins: advantage of hg would be that W3C already has a repo for it
  75. # [22:54] <fantasai> tabatkins: but your call
  76. # [22:54] <tabatkins> I just meant somewhere live that I could sync an hg repo with. I'm cool with just using w3c's repo.
  77. # [22:54] <tabatkins> I just don't know how to.
  78. # [22:54] <fantasai> tabatkins: push it to catstf or dump it on google code
  79. # [22:54] <fantasai> tabatkins: It's DVCS, if we want to move it, it's not like we've lost anything
  80. # [22:54] <tabatkins> Ok.
  81. # [22:55] <fantasai> tabatkins: if you can write some quick instructions on how to get it up and running, that'd be cool too
  82. # [22:55] <tabatkins> How do you set an existing folder as an hg repo again?
  83. # [22:56] <fantasai> tabatkins: Didn't you already do this?
  84. # [22:56] <fantasai> tabatkins: Type hg init in the folder
  85. # [22:56] <tabatkins> Yeah, I did it. Just once, though, which isn't enough for it to sink in.
  86. # [22:56] <fantasai> tabatkins: no, I mean, isn't your code already hg-init-ified?
  87. # [22:57] <fantasai> tabatkins: just make sure you don't check in any passwords
  88. # [22:57] <tabatkins> My local copy is. The copy on catstf isn't.
  89. # [22:57] <fantasai> then copy your local copy to catstf
  90. # [22:57] <fantasai> your copy is the one that has some semblance of history
  91. # [22:57] <fantasai> right?
  92. # [22:57] <tabatkins> Yes.
  93. # [22:57] <fantasai> why would you restart history?
  94. # [22:58] <tabatkins> Shrug. I basically just fumble around VCSes.
  95. # [22:58] <tabatkins> I only used SVN as an easily-accessible backup system at my old job.
  96. # [22:59] <fantasai> ok, well
  97. # [22:59] <fantasai> first thing you need to do is check in any of your outstanding changes
  98. # [22:59] <fantasai> hg commit
  99. # [22:59] <fantasai> that way they're recorded in the repository
  100. # [22:59] <fantasai> then, once hg stat returns nothing interesting
  101. # [23:00] <fantasai> copy it over to catstf and figure out how to make it accessible via ssh or something
  102. # [23:00] <fantasai> else dump it into Google Code so Google can serve it up
  103. # [23:00] * fantasai is sure they have an import option of some kind
  104. # [23:00] <tabatkins> Google Code sounds like an easier way to do it.
  105. # [23:00] <fantasai> Next, learn to take advantage of the VCS.
  106. # [23:00] <fantasai> Think in changesets
  107. # [23:01] <fantasai> It makes it way easier to unwind what's going on
  108. # [23:01] <fantasai> when changes broken up into logical chunks and commented.
  109. # [23:02] <fantasai> It's handy when working by yourself, but critical when you're working with other people.
  110. # [23:08] <fantasai> tabatkins: dbaron regularly breaks up fixes for a single bug into multiple changesets, just because it makes the patch easier to think about and easier to review
  111. # [23:08] <tabatkins> kk
  112. # [23:09] <fantasai> I think the last one I saw from him was 32 patches for a single fix :)
  113. # [23:10] <fantasai> An example drawn from one of mine -- patch A removed the old code for the feature, patch B did some refactoring, patch C reimplemented it, patch D did some optimization
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  115. # [23:15] <dbaron> tabatkins, see, for example, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/pushloghtml?changeset=05f3c68e73c9
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