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  45. # [17:27] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/15-CSS-irc
  46. # [17:27] <glazou> Zakim, this will be Style
  47. # [17:27] <Zakim> ok, glazou; I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM scheduled to start in 35 minutes
  48. # [17:27] <glazou> make logs public
  49. # [17:27] <glazou> RRSAgent, make logs public
  50. # [17:27] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, glazou
  51. # [17:44] * glazou hopes he'll have one of the 3 slots on the european bridge today :-/
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  53. # [17:53] <glazou> Zakim, code?
  54. # [17:53] <Zakim> the conference code is 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), glazou
  55. # [17:53] <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has now started
  56. # [17:53] <glazou> aaah
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  66. # [18:03] <TabAtkins_> zakim, aaaa is me
  67. # [18:03] <Zakim> +TabAtkins_; got it
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  69. # [18:03] <arronei> zakim, microsoft is me
  70. # [18:03] <Zakim> +arronei; got it
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  75. # [18:04] <glazou> Zakim, [Microsoft] has sylvaing
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  78. # [18:05] <jdaggett> zakim, who's on the phone?
  79. # [18:05] <Zakim> On the phone I see glazou, bradk, TabAtkins_, arronei, [Microsoft], [Mozilla], fantasai, SteveZ
  80. # [18:05] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has sylvaing
  81. # [18:05] <glazou> member:Zakim, [Microsoft] has arronei
  82. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[plinss]
  83. # [18:05] <jdaggett> so no one is talking...?
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  85. # [18:06] <glazou> Zakim, [Microsoft] has arronei
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  87. # [18:06] <glazou> jdaggett: we wait a few more minutes
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  91. # [18:07] <TabAtkins_> ScribeNick: TabAtkins_
  92. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> [quote="squareroot"]312 centimeters is 122.834646... and your program is casting this fraction ('double') into an integer. Whenever you cast a double into an integer, it rounds down. So 122.83 [i]should[/i] be rounded up to 123 inches (which happens to be 3yd, 1ft, 3in) but is instead rounded down to 122 (3yd, 1ft, 2in). I've never actually written an C, so I don't know what it uses for rounding, but you should be doing something like inches = round(centim
  93. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> EDIT: Okay, looks like you'll want to #include <math.h>, and then just write... inches = round(centimeters/CENT_PER_INCH). Just like I guessed before. :-P[/quote]
  94. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  95. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> Sorry it took so long, but thanks! We haven't actually covered the math preprocessor thing, but seeing as her way didn't work, too bad if she complains.
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  97. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> Holy crap. Sorry. Paste error.
  98. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> glazou: We need a wiki page for agenda items during TPAC.
  99. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Elika, can you set up a wiki page?
  100. # [18:08] <TabAtkins_> plinss_: Already done.
  101. # [18:08] <plinss_> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/tpac-2010
  102. # [18:09] <TabAtkins_> glazou: CSS 2.1 TestSuite. Deadline was Sep 15, where are we?
  103. # [18:09] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I'm planning to build the testsuite and publish it later today.
  104. # [18:09] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: We'll call this one RC1.
  105. # [18:09] <Zakim> +??P39
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  108. # [18:10] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Issue 101, Tab sent an email that he wasn't ready.
  109. # [18:10] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I'll have it before next call. I can do it by Friday.
  110. # [18:10] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Issue 154 is on Arron and John.
  111. # [18:10] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-154
  112. # [18:10] <TabAtkins_> arronei: 154 I've submitted a few images. I think they're correct, though Elika's called out a few things. I'll see today if they need any altering.
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  114. # [18:11] <TabAtkins_> arronei: We may not define all the terms that I use, but we use them extensively in the spec.
  115. # [18:11] <TabAtkins_> arronei: We should probably define them.
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  117. # [18:11] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Action on everyone - review the images for 154.
  118. # [18:12] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Next issue is 173, on Elika.
  119. # [18:12] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-173
  120. # [18:12] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: There's a proposal on the list that I sent last night.
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  123. # [18:13] <TabAtkins_> glazou: I think the first part is okay. We need to decide on the second part.
  124. # [18:13] <dbaron> what's the url?
  125. # [18:13] <TabAtkins_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0440.html
  126. # [18:13] <TabAtkins_> glazou: [lists the options for the second part from the email]
  127. # [18:13] * dbaron Zakim, who is on the phone?
  128. # [18:13] * Zakim sees on the phone: glazou, bradk, TabAtkins_, arronei, [Mozilla], fantasai, SteveZ, [plinss], smfr, [Microsoft], ??P39, [Microsoft.a], [Mozilla.a]
  129. # [18:13] * dbaron Zakim, [Mozilla.a] is dbaron
  130. # [18:13] * Zakim +dbaron; got it
  131. # [18:14] * dbaron couldn't get the wireless to work in the room with jdaggett
  132. # [18:14] * dbaron RRSAgent, pointer?
  133. # [18:14] * RRSAgent See http://www.w3.org/2010/09/15-CSS-irc#T16-11-15
  134. # [18:14] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I don't think either choice will end up doing much of anything anyway; if anyone's putting a linebreak in generated content they need to escape them anyway, and the spec uses \A all over th eplace for it.
  135. # [18:14] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: So I don't think this is a compat or author issue, so we should just choose whichever option is easier for implementors.
  136. # [18:15] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I don't have a favored opinion.
  137. # [18:16] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: I think we handle our generated content the same as DOM text, generally.
  138. # [18:16] <TabAtkins_> arronei: Basically the same in IE.
  139. # [18:16] <dbaron> we could send it through a different path if we had to first, but preferable not to.
  140. # [18:16] <TabAtkins_> glazou: So option B should match the current practice?
  141. # [18:17] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: This does mean that it's impossible to represent a carriage return in a CSS document.
  142. # [18:17] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I doubt that's important for anyone ever, so it's okay.
  143. # [18:17] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-197
  144. # [18:17] <Zakim> -??P39
  145. # [18:18] <TabAtkins_> RESOLVED: For issue 173, accept part 1, accept option b for part 2.
  146. # [18:18] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-159
  147. # [18:19] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I haven't had time to process the changes in this draft.
  148. # [18:19] * dbaron Zakim, who is noisy?
  149. # [18:19] * Zakim dbaron, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: SteveZ (13%), fantasai (42%)
  150. # [18:19] * glazou fantasai breathes too strongly :-)
  151. # [18:19] <bradk> is that wind or heavy breathing?
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  153. # [18:20] <TabAtkins_> glazou: I don't want to hold this forever, so please have review ready for next week.
  154. # [18:20] <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0191.html
  155. # [18:22] * howcome is having problems connecting
  156. # [18:23] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: There was discussion during the last telcon about the issue that Boris raised with the definition, where a runin is clearing one way and the block it runs into is clearing another way.
  157. # [18:23] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I posted a testcase to IRC and Aaron looked at it.
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  159. # [18:24] * dbaron Zakim, [IPcaller] is howcome
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  161. # [18:25] <TabAtkins_> glazou: So what needs to be done?
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  164. # [18:26] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-198
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  166. # [18:26] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: We need a new proposal to address Boris' issue. I can do that; we have all the info we need for it.
  167. # [18:26] <glazou> Zakim, who is on the phone?
  168. # [18:26] <Zakim> On the phone I see glazou, bradk, TabAtkins_, arronei, [Mozilla], fantasai, SteveZ, [plinss], smfr, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], dbaron, howcome
  169. # [18:26] <TabAtkins_> ACTION Tab: Post updated proposal to the list.
  170. # [18:26] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  171. # [18:26] * RRSAgent records action 1
  172. # [18:26] <trackbot> Created ACTION-266 - Post updated proposal to the list. [on Tab Atkins Jr. - due 2010-09-22].
  173. # [18:26] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-199
  174. # [18:26] * dbaron Zakim, [Mozilla] is jdaggett
  175. # [18:26] * Zakim +jdaggett; got it
  176. # [18:27] <TabAtkins_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0433.html
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  178. # [18:27] <TabAtkins_> Proposal I sent yesterday. I don't think it actually addresses the issue properly, though, so there are some options in the email for better solutions.
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  180. # [18:29] <Zakim> -SteveZ
  181. # [18:30] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I just need someone to sanitycheck this for me.
  182. # [18:30] <Zakim> +SteveZ
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  184. # [18:31] <TabAtkins_> ACTION dbaron: Sanity-check the issue 199 proposal.
  185. # [18:31] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  186. # [18:31] * RRSAgent records action 2
  187. # [18:31] <trackbot> Created ACTION-267 - Sanity-check the issue 199 proposal. [on David Baron - due 2010-09-22].
  188. # [18:31] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-198
  189. # [18:31] <fantasai> http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/635
  190. # [18:32] <fantasai> arronei - what were the test results for that?
  191. # [18:32] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Steve, you said during the meeting that there was a problem, but you couldn't remember what it was.
  192. # [18:33] <glazou> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/css2.1#issue-203
  193. # [18:34] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: This needs layout people to look at this.
  194. # [18:34] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: But elika, arronei, and arronei's coworker all looked at this together and thought it was probably good.
  195. # [18:35] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: I believe the change is fine with me, too.
  196. # [18:35] <TabAtkins_> RESOLVED: Accept fantasai's change for issue 203.
  197. # [18:36] <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0233.html
  198. # [18:36] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Agenda item 3, what should we do with min()/max()?
  199. # [18:36] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: All of the issues I found with min/max are issues with mixing % and lengths.
  200. # [18:36] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: There were two ways to fix them - one was to remove min/max entirely, and the other was to not allow % in min.
  201. # [18:37] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: There are cases where we reverse percentages for intrinsic widths.
  202. # [18:37] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: So if you have "width:100px, margin-right:50%", its container is 200px to satisfy the conditions.
  203. # [18:38] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: There's no sensical way to do that with min/max, because there are likely multiple solutions and it's difficult to distinguish between them.
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  205. # [18:38] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: There were other issues that I'd have to dig up.
  206. # [18:38] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I say we do what fantasai suggests and mark it as at-risk.
  207. # [18:39] <TabAtkins_> szilles: That means we'd have to drop the feature, though. We wouldn't have the choice to just drop % from the feature.
  208. # [18:39] <TabAtkins_> howcome: We can just list both.
  209. # [18:40] <TabAtkins_> howcome: Also you wanted to move this to Last Call, right?
  210. # [18:40] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: Yeah.
  211. # [18:40] <TabAtkins_> howcome: And you're willing to be co-editor?
  212. # [18:40] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: Sure.
  213. # [18:41] <TabAtkins_> howcome: I think the two of us should review it through.
  214. # [18:41] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Agreed.
  215. # [18:41] <TabAtkins_> RESOLVED: Mark min/max as at-risk, and mark % in min/max as at-risk.
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  217. # [18:42] <glazou> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0235.html
  218. # [18:42] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Topic, new list-style-types.
  219. # [18:43] <glazou> +1 !!!
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  222. # [18:48] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: I've taken over the list module. It extends the number of style types from 6 or 7 to around 100, but it still ends up still missing a number of minority languages.
  223. # [18:48] <glazou> http://www.w3.org/mid/AANLkTimg9ULp9vS212+G4f5-Oav63p=Eu+EadAzQmSyk@mail.gmail.com
  224. # [18:50] <dbaron> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2010Sep/0381.html
  225. # [18:50] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: Rather than just forever extending the module with new types and still missing things, I've proposed that we can address all but 1 of the style-types with a set of 7 algorithms, which we can then expose to the user so they can create their own list-styles.
  226. # [18:50] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: I don't think you can get Hebrew simply like that.
  227. # [18:51] <Zakim> -SteveZ
  228. # [18:51] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: Actually, it's fairlyu simple to do. I have it written down already.
  229. # [18:51] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Including the forbidden words and such?
  230. # [18:51] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: Yes to the 16/17 thing. The other forbidden words aren't forbidden in a list context, according to some hebrew i18n people at google.
  231. # [18:52] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: Is everyone okay with the 10/15 deadline for implementation reports?
  232. # [18:52] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: Google should be cool with that.
  233. # [18:52] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: Not sure if we'll be able to. It's an awful lot of work.
  234. # [18:52] * fantasai has some ideas, let's discuss with roc later this week
  235. # [18:53] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: Can you be more specific?
  236. # [18:53] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: It's a question of resources at Mozilla, I think David said before.
  237. # [18:54] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I think that Tab and I can possibly help if we can dig up HP's system and ask for volunteers to help with the report, because then it's easy for one person to submit a small number of results.
  238. # [18:54] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: So it sounds like we can get an impl report from Google. Maybe from Moz. What about Opera?
  239. # [18:54] <TabAtkins_> howcome: I can't commit to a date.
  240. # [18:55] <bradk> What about Apple?
  241. # [18:55] <smfr> i imagine chrome's results would be equivalent to apple's (both webkit)
  242. # [18:55] <TabAtkins_> glazou: I'm a bit puzzled, because this is the last effort of a long line. Everything depends on this last effort.
  243. # [18:55] <bradk> I thought there was some forking between Safari and Chrome
  244. # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> glazou: All the browser vendors are interested in seeing CSS2.1 become a Rec, but it *cannot* happen without this effort.
  245. # [18:56] <smfr> bradk: very little and the css/layout level
  246. # [18:56] <arronei> Actually Chrome and Safari have different results. If Apple can also submit an implementaiton report that would be nice.
  247. # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> glazou: I understand the resource issues, but it's very important we get this. It would be a very bad signal if we are late with CSS2.1 just because of impl reports.
  248. # [18:57] <smfr> arronei: probably due to different snapshots of the webkit code
  249. # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> JohnJansen: At the FtF, Moz said it would be okay to do impl reports 30 days after test suite completion.
  250. # [18:57] <Zakim> -bradk
  251. # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: I'm not sure those two discussions were related.
  252. # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: So should we move the date or what? It sounds like we had agreement on the date, but apparently only 2 browsers are going to make it.
  253. # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I think we should leave the date as the target, and I'll talk with Tab after the call to see what we can do.
  254. # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: Also I think that looking at an impl report will provide feedback on the test suite.
  255. # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: Right, but we need impl report first.
  256. # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> glazou: I'd like to remind everyone that if we shift a lot, we'll be in very bad shape in the w3c.
  257. # [18:59] <TabAtkins_> glazou: We publicly said that the impl reports will be ready on the 15 of oct. w3c staff read it.
  258. # [18:59] <TabAtkins_> glazou: So if we shift, we cannot shift a lot. We still need to be in PR before the end of the year.
  259. # [18:59] <TabAtkins_> glazou: Listening to what david said, I'm scared if it's still possible.
  260. # [18:59] <Zakim> -jdaggett
  261. # [18:59] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: At TPAC we shouldn't be worrying about 2.1, we should be taking it to PR. I'm scared that it won't happen now.
  262. # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> glazou: So let's keep the timing right now, and see what Tab and Elika can produce by next week.
  263. # [19:00] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  264. # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> sylvaing: And bring this up first thing next call.
  265. # [19:00] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  266. # [19:00] <Zakim> -arronei
  267. # [19:00] <Zakim> -smfr
  268. # [19:00] <Zakim> -howcome
  269. # [19:00] <Zakim> -glazou
  270. # [19:00] <Zakim> -dbaron
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  273. # [19:02] <dbaron> Is it OK to test a beta for the implementation report?
  274. # [19:02] <glazou> yes
  275. # [19:02] <glazou> as soon as it's publically available
  276. # [19:02] <glazou> and it is
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  278. # [19:03] <fantasai> tabatkins: datafile - http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20100815/testinfo.data
  279. # [19:03] <fantasai> harness info: http://wiki.csswg.org/test/harness
  280. # [19:05] <Zakim> -fantasai
  281. # [19:05] <Zakim> -TabAtkins_
  282. # [19:06] <Zakim> -[plinss]
  283. # [19:06] <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has ended
  284. # [19:06] <Zakim> Attendees were glazou, bradk, +1.650.214.aaaa, TabAtkins_, arronei, fantasai, sylvaing, SteveZ, [plinss], smfr, [Microsoft], dbaron, howcome, jdaggett
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  296. # [19:55] <smfr> has anyone managed to build the 2.1 test suite recently?
  297. # [19:56] <smfr> make VERSION=css2_1 gives:
  298. # [19:56] <smfr> cp: ERROR/src: No such file or directory
  299. # [19:57] <jgraham> I think gsnedders was complaining about some problem with the build script at some point
  300. # [19:57] <jgraham> recently
  301. # [19:57] <smfr> i'm also curious about the state of the various harnesses
  302. # [20:06] <gsnedders> smfr: CSS 2.1 does not build currently. What makefile are you running anyway?
  303. # [20:06] <smfr> build-test/Makefile
  304. # [20:07] <smfr> from http://test.csswg.org/svn/build-test
  305. # [20:10] <gsnedders> smfr: Okay, AFAIK the normal way to build CSS 2.1 nowadays is perl tools/pub-css21.pl
  306. # [20:10] <smfr> gsnedders: ok, then maybe the READMEs should be udpated
  307. # [20:10] <gsnedders> I could just be wrong :
  308. # [20:10] <gsnedders> * :)
  309. # [20:11] <smfr> gsnedders: also, http://wiki.csswg.org/test/css2.1/harness describes the "old" system without saying what the new one is
  310. # [20:11] <smfr> it's all such a mess
  311. # [20:11] <gsnedders> Yeah :(
  312. # [20:11] <gsnedders> The new build system is currently broken, fantasai said she'd fix it yesterday/today
  313. # [20:11] <smfr> this doesn't help with getting implementation reports out
  314. # [20:11] <gsnedders> Indeed
  315. # [20:26] <dbaron> Speaking of which, is there a good way to find out if the tests that I contributed have been included in the test suite or not?
  316. # [20:27] <gsnedders> dbaron: As of whenever the WG decided it, all submitted tests are in, whether reviewed or not
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  318. # [20:29] <dbaron> so I contributed a test for 10.3.3, for example, and I don't see it in the previous release of the test suite.
  319. # [20:29] <dbaron> Can I tell if it's going to be in the one that happens today?
  320. # [20:31] <gsnedders> dbaron: If it's in /contributors/dbaron/submitted/css2.1 or /approved/css2.1/src it should be in, I think
  321. # [20:33] <dbaron> it's in /contributors/mozilla/incoming/css2.1/, looks like
  322. # [20:33] <gsnedders> Then it's not where it should be if it's actually been submitted to the testsuite
  323. # [20:34] <gsnedders> (which is s/incoming/submitted/)
  324. # [20:34] <dbaron> should I move it?
  325. # [20:34] <gsnedders> dbaron: Go ahead
  326. # [20:35] * gsnedders waits for fantasai to kill him for saying that
  327. # [20:36] <dbaron> fantasai, should I do that?
  328. # [20:38] <dbaron> it looks like a bunch of the ones in incoming were copied to submitted
  329. # [20:38] <dbaron> but not all of them
  330. # [20:38] <dbaron> and I'm not sure how I can tell which
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  340. # [23:01] <fantasai> dbaron: I renamed a lot of the tests
  341. # [23:01] <fantasai> dbaron: I have a patch against Mozilla trunk for that
  342. # [23:01] <dbaron> fantasai, so are there a lot of tests in two different locations in the svn repo?
  343. # [23:01] <fantasai> dbaron: In some cases I might have not included the test due to one already being in the test suite for the same exact thing
  344. # [23:02] <fantasai> dbaron: Shouldn't be
  345. # [23:02] <fantasai> dbaron: I copied over the 2.1 tests into submitted/ from hg trunk
  346. # [23:02] <fantasai> dbaron: they weren't copied over from incoming
  347. # [23:02] <fantasai> dbaron: I studied your scripts for that
  348. # [23:02] <fantasai> dbaron: so it should be the same thing
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