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  1. # Session Start: Thu Sep 16 00:00:00 2010
  2. # Session Ident: #css
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  6. # [01:47] <fantasai> smfr: Actually, it does say what the new one is. You just skimmed past the paragraph that said it.
  7. # [01:48] <fantasai> smfr: I deleted the old instructions and have replaced them with more details on the new one.
  8. # [01:48] <smfr> fantasai: excellent, thanks
  9. # [01:48] <fantasai> smfr: I haven't tested the system yet, there might be some bugs with building currently
  10. # [01:48] <smfr> fantasai: so what's the recommended way to actually run the tests?
  11. # [01:48] <smfr> should I make them myself?
  12. # [01:48] <smfr> also, which, if any test harness is working?
  13. # [01:48] <fantasai> smfr: No, just wait until tomorrow. :)
  14. # [01:49] <fantasai> smfr: I should have a build out by then
  15. # [01:49] <fantasai> smfr: I don't think any of the test harnesses are working
  16. # [01:49] <fantasai> smfr: tabatkins is assigned to setting one of them up
  17. # [01:49] <smfr> ok
  18. # [01:49] <smfr> i'm unlikely to run the tests without one; just too much work
  19. # [01:49] <fantasai> smfr: understandable
  20. # [01:50] <smfr> even pass/fail buttons and some local storage would be better than nothing
  21. # [01:50] <fantasai> smfr: If Tab can get the harness to work, we can do better than that :)
  22. # [01:50] <smfr> fantasai: ideally we'd have some public website, and we could crowdsource this
  23. # [01:50] <fantasai> smfr: That's the idea behind the current harness
  24. # [01:50] <smfr> use mechanical turk :)
  25. # [01:51] <fantasai> smfr: it records pass/fail results, and can be set to serve up tests with the least number of results recorded
  26. # [01:51] <smfr> fantasai: stores pass/fail per user agent?
  27. # [01:51] <fantasai> smfr: I'm hoping Tab can figure out how to set it up
  28. # [01:51] <fantasai> smfr: yes, by UA string
  29. # [01:51] <smfr> then there's the question of what to test. latest safari release, or webkit nightly? mac or windows?
  30. # [01:52] <fantasai> smfr: That I don't know. Up to you.
  31. # [01:52] <fantasai> smfr: I think we do allow nightlies to qualify
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  40. # [03:23] <gsnedders> Crowdsourcing it? We just used interns. :)
  41. # [03:34] <fantasai> Even interns are more efficient if they get Pass/Fail buttons :)
  42. # [03:37] <gsnedders> Well, in our case, it was done within our regression tracking system… so they did :P
  43. # [03:38] <gsnedders> (Though there's some variation between platforms, where the TC gives the same result in all cases, which would tend to suggest a bad pass condition leading different people to think it had passed/failed)
  44. # [03:39] <fantasai> That's why we have a "Can't Tell" button :)
  45. # [03:39] <gsnedders> (And yes, writing up that variation is on my to-do list… but I've just started uni and I'm using Fresher's Week as an excuse, especially seeming it's almost 3am and I just got back from a club :))
  46. # [03:40] <gsnedders> fantasai: We do too. :)
  47. # [03:40] <gsnedders> That doesn't stop people from thinking something that passed failed, though
  48. # [03:49] <gsnedders> But yeah, when I had a brief look through what labelling varied between platforms it looked as if some did have bad pass conditions
  49. # [03:51] <gsnedders> And now, sleep :)
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  68. # [10:03] <ashaw> Any news about the CIE colorspace proposal I made 1 week ago.
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