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  1. # Session Start: Fri Oct 01 00:00:00 2010
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  10. # [04:40] <ashaw> if we are to open up additional color spaces in CSS4 color module should we not allow interpolation in atleast on generic color space (xyY, Lab, Luv)?
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  12. # [05:08] <fantasai> ashaw: I think you will have better luck getting an answer by posting to www-style
  13. # [05:09] <ashaw> will do.
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  15. # [05:32] <tyr`> why isn't there an active html/xml channel on here? >_<
  16. # [05:33] <tyr`> any XML dudes in here?
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  19. # [06:35] <fantasai> Murakami-san and Ishii-san and I are meeting with a couple people from DAISY. They are concerned about the accessibility of textbooks in Japan and want to have electronic formats provided in addition to braille and large text.
  20. # [06:35] <fantasai> Currently discussing ruby text.
  21. # [06:35] <fantasai> One of their requirements is to allow ruby text on both sides of the base text
  22. # [06:42] <fantasai> discussing some of the proposals that have come up to hack this into HTML5 markup
  23. # [06:59] <fantasai> studying fallback behavior of HTML5 ruby vs XHTML1.1 ruby
  24. # [07:00] <fantasai> People here seem to think the fallback behavior of HTML5 ruby is really weird for mono ruby.
  25. # [07:03] * fantasai is not sure whether this should be solved at the HTML level or the style level
  26. # [07:08] <fantasai> Murakami-san shows some examples of ruby text, and shows that doing a search in the page does not give useful results
  27. # [07:08] <fantasai> since the ruby breaks up the base text, breaking find capability
  28. # [07:09] <fantasai> Firefox ruby extension does not have this problem
  29. # [07:10] <fantasai> as severely
  30. # [07:10] <fantasai> it groups bases belonging to the same ruby
  31. # [07:10] <fantasai> but can't find across ruby boundaries
  32. # [07:24] <fantasai> Another comment is for footnote markers, which are displayed similar to ruby in Japanese text.
  33. # [07:25] <fantasai> (They can be hacked with abspos, but this won't behave correctly at the start/end of a line.)
  34. # [07:25] <fantasai> (In my experience, they behave very much like ruby above an empty base, with overhang allowed.)
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  36. # [07:38] <fantasai> s/mono ruby/jukugo ruby/
  37. # [07:38] * fantasai fiddles with IE
  38. # [07:38] <fantasai> Hm, it supports mono, jukugo, and group ruby.
  39. # [07:38] <fantasai> (though not ruby on both sides)
  40. # [07:39] <fantasai> as
  41. # [07:39] <fantasai> <ruby>A<rb>a</rb>B<rb>b</rb></ruby>
  42. # [07:39] <fantasai> s/rb/rt/g;
  43. # [07:55] <fantasai> WebKit and IE aren't compatible with mutiple <rt> elements....
  44. # [08:46] * fantasai thinks IE's behavior makes more sense -- it's what she'd spec for anonymous box generation in CSS
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