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  21. # [15:48] * Set by fantasai on Sun Aug 01 23:49:50
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  33. # [18:34] <mjs> anne: maybe just define that it propagates from the stylesheet?
  34. # [18:35] <anne> that might be enough, indeed
  35. # [18:35] <anne> though would not work for <style> @import "test" </style> but I'm not sure how important that is
  36. # [18:35] <anne> that sounds pretty good actually
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  58. # [23:26] <hyatt> fantasai: ping
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  61. # [23:42] <fantasai> hyatt: pong
  62. # [23:42] <hyatt> fantasai: i sent you email
  63. # [23:43] <hyatt> fantasai: i like most of the new logical property stuff but i hate the terms "measure" and "length"
  64. # [23:43] <hyatt> would rather go back to logical-width and logical-height
  65. # [23:43] <fantasai> heh
  66. # [23:43] <fantasai> I would prefer length, but I can't come up with an alternative to measure
  67. # [23:44] <hyatt> line-direction-length, block-direction-length
  68. # [23:44] <fantasai> that's not making it less akward
  69. # [23:44] <hyatt> anyway the reason i like logcical width and logical height
  70. # [23:44] <fantasai> awkward
  71. # [23:44] <hyatt> is that the code in webkit stays very readable
  72. # [23:44] <hyatt> like you can still stare at layout code and see it talking about the logical left of a line
  73. # [23:45] <hyatt> or the logical top + logical height etc
  74. # [23:45] <hyatt> so someone just reading it can kind of filter it out and just think horizontal lines
  75. # [23:45] <hyatt> anyway just giving my feedback. like the other stuff.
  76. # [23:46] <hyatt> i think logical-width/height are good terms though and should just keep them
  77. # [23:46] <hyatt> especially if we do the logical keyword for shorthands
  78. # [23:46] <fantasai> k
  79. # [23:46] <fantasai> I mainly put them in to see the reaction :)
  80. # [23:47] <fantasai> hm, speaking of which, I need to cut that entire section out so I can requestion FPWD
  81. # [23:47] <fantasai> s/ion//
  82. # [23:47] <hyatt> there's really two aspects to these terms
  83. # [23:47] <fantasai> (it's bedtime here)
  84. # [23:47] <hyatt> there's the css properties
  85. # [23:47] <hyatt> but then there is what term you use all over your code
  86. # [23:47] <hyatt> i guess the two could be different
  87. # [23:47] <hyatt> but i like that they matched (logicalwidth property, logicalwidth term etc)
  88. # [23:48] <hyatt> ok i won't bother you
  89. # [23:48] <hyatt> night :)
  90. # [23:48] <fantasai> hm, not seeing your email
  91. # [23:48] <hyatt> i just sent it to you
  92. # [23:48] <hyatt> not to thel ist
  93. # [23:48] <fantasai> yeah, that's where I'm looking...
  94. # [23:49] <fantasai> You could make them match either way
  95. # [23:49] <fantasai> It's just a problem that the only alternative to width is breadth, which nobody can spell right
  96. # [23:50] * fantasai remembers to check the other email address
  97. # [23:52] <hyatt> lol
  98. # [23:52] <hyatt> i just think logical-width/height are fine terms
  99. # [23:52] <hyatt> fantasai: i sent a post out about the baseline issue
  100. # [23:52] <hyatt> with details about wjhat WinIE does
  101. # [23:53] <fantasai> from what I heard at TPAC, what WinIE does isn't necessarily a good idea
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  103. # [23:53] <fantasai> but I don't remember the details
  104. # [23:53] <fantasai> all I know is, I need to spend a couple days writing up that section
  105. # [23:54] <fantasai> I have a fuzzy idea of how it's supposed to work from talking with some of the Adobe guys at TPAC
  106. # [23:54] <fantasai> so I'm going to work that out and see if what I understood all fits together
  107. # [23:55] <fantasai> but basically, my approach is to not touch the vertical-align property's default
  108. # [23:55] <fantasai> and define baseline behavior for vertical to behave appropriately
  109. # [23:55] <fantasai> for textual contents
  110. # [23:56] <fantasai> but koji said something about ...
  111. # [23:56] <fantasai> oh bother
  112. # [23:56] <fantasai> I don't think I can say anything intelligent right now.
  113. # [23:56] <fantasai> :)
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