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  1. # Session Start: Fri Apr 08 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:16] <Ms2ger> fantasai, implementation report looks good
  4. # [00:16] <Ms2ger> For future reference, what's the best way to submit those?
  5. # [00:24] <fantasai> Ms2ger: public-css-testsuite
  6. # [00:25] <Ms2ger> And format?
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  9. # [00:44] <fantasai> Ms2ger: I don't think we are very settled on the format
  10. # [00:45] <fantasai> ms2ger: Going forward, though, we'll be doing tab-separated files just like CSS2.1
  11. # [00:45] <fantasai> ms2ger: Namespaces is kindof grandfathered, at least until we work it into the new build systme
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  15. # [01:30] <dholbert> Bert, I have a question on the flexbox spec - do you have a minute (& am I interrupting anything on this channel?)
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  17. # [01:37] <TabAtkins> dholbert: No, no interruption. Can I try to answer the question?
  18. # [01:38] <dholbert> TabAtkins, thanks! So I'm looking at the Free Space Allocation Algorithm in the latest spec
  19. # [01:38] <dholbert> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/#free-space-allocation-algorithm
  20. # [01:38] <TabAtkins> Yup.
  21. # [01:39] <dholbert> it takes as inputs flex tuples and an "available free space"
  22. # [01:39] <dholbert> it has a chunk for "If the available free space is a negative length"
  23. # [01:39] <dholbert> I think know what that's trying to do, but I think it's not quite correctly specified (either at that point, or in the caller)
  24. # [01:39] <dholbert> Because it's invoked as e.g.
  25. # [01:40] <dholbert> "Invoke the free space allocation algorithm with the set of flex tuples collected above, and an available free space equal to the flexbox's inner measure." (<-- quoting section 8.2)
  26. # [01:41] <dholbert> And IIUC, the "flexbox's inner measure" is the width of the flexbox as a whole
  27. # [01:42] <dholbert> so I believe we're passing in the whole width of the flexbox as the "available free space", and I don't understand how that could be negative
  28. # [01:42] <TabAtkins> Woops, you're right.
  29. # [01:42] <TabAtkins> What I want to do is, in the allocation algo, subtract the sum of the preferred widths and subtract that from the available space, *then* do the rest of the algorithm using that number isntead.
  30. # [01:43] <dholbert> That makes sense, yeah
  31. # [01:43] <dholbert> Subtract all the preferred widths, and then split based on positive / 0 / negative at that point
  32. # [01:44] <dholbert> Should I email www-style to mention that? Or are you already on top of fixing it? :)
  33. # [01:44] <TabAtkins> I'll just go ahead and fix it.
  34. # [01:44] <dholbert> excellent
  35. # [01:45] <dholbert> (so in the first line of 8.6, "The inputs to this algorithm are [...] and a length representing the available free space, which may be positive or negative" -- the positive or negative bit there no longer applies at that point, IIUC)
  36. # [01:45] <dholbert> anyway, /me out. thanks again!
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  38. # [02:20] * fantasai pokes TabAtkins about that 225 email
  39. # [02:21] * fantasai pokes plinss , too
  40. # [02:24] <plinss> fantasai: I've been waiting for responses...
  41. # [02:25] <plinss> (my email's been up and down all day) looks like msft apple and dbaron responded so far?
  42. # [02:26] <TabAtkins> I'm looking!
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  65. # [13:51] <gsnedders> svn.csswg.org seems to be unreasonably slow, getting ~5KB/s frm it
  66. # [13:51] <gsnedders> *from
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  74. # [17:28] <plinss> gsnedders: looked at the logs, don't see any unusual usage or load on the machine around that time, probably some net congestion between you and the server
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  85. # [20:30] <fantasai> "Dear Ralph, Here is a calendar <http://calendar.google.com/>. Please use it so you can avoid scheduling other people to be on a call with you when you are not intending to show up. Sincerely, fantasai"
  86. # [20:51] <hober> fantasai: seriously
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  88. # [21:06] <fantasai> hober: Hm, turns out it's not his fault.
  89. # [21:06] <fantasai> hober: The person who arranged the call never checked Ralph's schedule.
  90. # [21:08] <fantasai> Although I can't imagine arranging a call with someone without getting some kind of confirmation that they're available, seems like a pretty broken way of scheduling things to me.
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  108. # [23:44] <dholbert> TabAtkins, one other nit on the flexbox spec, if you have a second :)
  109. # [23:44] <dholbert> (a grammar-nazi-nit this time)
  110. # [23:44] <dholbert> At end of the first paragraph on http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/#flexibility :
  111. # [23:44] <dholbert> "The ‘flex()’ function is used to specify a flexible length and it's parameters. "
  112. # [23:44] <dholbert> That wants: s/it's/its/
  113. # [23:45] <TabAtkins> Ah, indeed. Sorry about that.
  114. # [23:45] * TabAtkins tries to remember if he did that on purpose or not.
  115. # [23:45] <TabAtkins> Sometimes I get it in my head that that rule is silly and I should just write "it's" and "who's".
  116. # [23:45] <dholbert> heh
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