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  1. # Session Start: Sat May 28 00:00:00 2011
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  34. # [19:14] <konaya> Well, that's annoying...
  35. # [19:15] <Ms2ger> Who is?
  36. # [19:16] <konaya> More a "what" than a "who".
  37. # [19:16] <konaya> HTML5 won't honour negative values for margin-top. The same document declared as HTML4.01 does.
  38. # [19:17] <konaya> At least in this browser (Firefox 4)
  39. # [19:17] <Ms2ger> HTML4 Transitional?
  40. # [19:17] <konaya> Yup
  41. # [19:17] <gsnedders> konaya: That's in quirks mode.
  42. # [19:17] <konaya> Quirks mode?
  43. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla%27s_Quirks_Mode
  44. # [19:18] <Ms2ger> (though it's not particular to Mozilla)
  45. # [19:18] <konaya> Hm.
  46. # [19:19] <konaya> So, does that mean that negative values for margin shouldn't really be honoured according to standard?
  47. # [19:20] <Ms2ger> It would be easier to say that with a test page
  48. # [19:20] <konaya> Ah, alright. Stand by :(
  49. # [19:20] <konaya> *:)
  50. # [19:24] <konaya> http://share.sandslott.org/pub/stuffs/test.html
  51. # [19:25] <konaya> And http://share.sandslott.org/pub/stuffs/style.css
  52. # [19:25] <konaya> Oh, wait, http://share.sandslott.org/pub/stuffs/style2.css
  53. # [19:27] <konaya> Basically, I just want to vertically center the div "horizon". If there is a better way to do it, I'll gladly do that.
  54. # [19:28] <Ms2ger> Try adding html, body { height: 100%; }
  55. # [19:28] <konaya> Alright, I'll try
  56. # [19:29] <Ms2ger> And if that doesn't work, ask gsnedders :)
  57. # [19:29] <konaya> It worked! :)
  58. # [19:29] <konaya> Thanks! How come it did, though?
  59. # [19:30] <konaya> Specifying html and body to 100% height feels kinda... Odd.
  60. # [19:31] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: Ask me? I'm a JS engine QA!
  61. # [19:31] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: Don't think I know CSS just because I'm in the WG :)
  62. # [19:32] <konaya> ^^
  63. # [19:32] <Ms2ger> gsnedders, hey, I'm a DOM spec monkey, and I'm not even in the WG :)
  64. # [19:33] <konaya> How I only have to find a way to make it standards-compliant _and_ non-functional in IE and my day is perfect.
  65. # [19:33] <konaya> *Now
  66. # [19:35] <konaya> Nah, just kidding. Even though it wouldn't really matter; the kind of people who would use IE wouldn't visit my page. Anyways, thanks for the help!
  67. # [19:36] <Ms2ger> Np
  68. # [19:44] <gsnedders> Ms2ger: I'm in the WG, FWIW, because I work on our automated testing system, pretty much.
  69. # [19:45] <Ms2ger> That's as good a reason as any
  70. # [19:46] <gsnedders> (though I seem to be letting jgraham handle more and more of the specs test suite related stuff nowadays)
  71. # [19:49] <Ms2ger> Boo, IDB
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