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  17. # [01:08] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: You mind if I specify in V&U that <url> always computes to an absolute url?
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  19. # [01:16] <fantasai> TabAtkins_: I thought it was already specified thus
  20. # [01:17] <fantasai> TabAtkins_: Definitely is in CSS2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/colors.html#background-properties
  21. # [01:17] <fantasai> anyway, bedtime
  22. # [01:17] * fantasai has to get up early tomorrow and catcha train
  23. # [01:18] <TabAtkins_> Yes, it's specified in individual properties. The question is if we should specify this in the definition of the <url> type.
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  70. # [08:54] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Hmm... I think no, because it is used other places like @import
  71. # [08:54] <fantasai> TabAtkins_: Wait, nevermind.
  72. # [08:54] <fantasai> TabAtkins_: Yeah, go ahead
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  181. # [20:33] * tantek_ is in the W3C #ab meeting, in case anyone wants to lurk re: document process
  182. # [20:34] <tantek_> ping me here if you want to provide input, especially re: http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/process#test-and-implementation-driven-agile-spec-advancement
  183. # [20:36] <stearns> my feedback is that I like the acceleration ideas, but they should be inputs to the process, not automatic transitions
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  191. # [20:53] <tantek_> stearns - so you're saying you'd like them as opt-in for editors, rather than requires for editors?
  192. # [20:56] <stearns> more like checkpoints. If a spec meets one of your accelerant criteria, then it's required for the editors to either push it to the next step or explain to the WG why they aren't
  193. # [20:57] <stearns> things shouldn't languish silently - the accelerants force attention on potential problems
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  201. # [21:51] <shepazu> fantasai: the SVG WG resolved to pubish FPWD of CSS3 Transforms, now waiting on CSS WG ratification http://www.w3.org/2012/02/16-svg-minutes.html#item01 and will be setting the stage
  202. # [21:52] <shepazu> (e.g. preparing documents, getting PLH's permission, etc.)
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  205. # [22:14] <tantek_> shepazu - how about a LCWD of CSS3 Transforms? :)
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  208. # [22:15] <plinss> tantek_: we'll be discussing that shortly...
  209. # [22:15] <tantek_> thanks plinss, appreciated
  210. # [22:15] <shepazu> tantek_: sounds great… we need to resolve the issues first, but we should make this a priority
  211. # [22:17] <tantek_> shepazu - I think we should be able to go to LCWD with open issues (that is, we shouldn't have to bounce off zero issues) and I'm requesting to the AB that the Process be changed accordingly.
  212. # [22:17] <shepazu> tantek_: that's not "Last Call"
  213. # [22:17] <shepazu> that's "Call"
  214. # [22:18] <tantek_> shepazu - right, "Last Call" has been in practice a misnomer for a long time.
  215. # [22:18] <tantek_> hence LC
  216. # [22:18] <tantek_> just an abbreviation
  217. # [22:19] <shepazu> tantek_: for niceties, examples, clarifications, I agree… but for fundamentally unsolved problems, I don't think I agree
  218. # [22:19] <tantek_> shepazu - for example, if we have rough agreement on syntax and feature set, I think it is appropriate to go to LC
  219. # [22:20] <shepazu> and there are still a few fundamental disagreements
  220. # [22:20] <tantek_> (with some features being labeled "at risk")
  221. # [22:20] <tantek_> (per lack of implementation)
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  223. # [22:22] <shepazu> tantek_: let's not conflate the symbols of progress for concrete progress
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  226. # [22:35] <tantek_> shepazu as long as such "symbols" block dropping of vendor prefixes, they are obstacles to concrete progress.
  227. # [22:35] <shepazu> that's an arcane CSS WG rule
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  229. # [22:35] <tantek_> no it's connected to the CR definition of being the point where a call for implementations occurs.
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  232. # [22:40] <shepazu> tantek_: I agree that the "Call for Implementations" is totally unreal and artificial… we need to create tests early on, because implementation happens at all stages, not just CR
  233. # [22:42] <tantek_> shepazu - I believe I can agree with all your assertions in that statement :)
  234. # [22:43] <shepazu> breakthrough!
  235. # [22:44] <shepazu> when tantek_ and shepazu can agree on something, it's almost certainly right… or totally wrong :)
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The end :)