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  1. # Session Start: Sat Feb 18 00:00:00 2012
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:01] * sylvaing is now known as sylvaing_away
  4. # [00:06] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Are you okay with changing the image() requirement so that browsers aren't required to implement media fragments, but if they don't, they're at least required to *recognize* them and treat it as an image they can't understand?
  5. # [00:06] <TabAtkins_> Suggested by Kenny Lu.
  6. # [00:07] <TabAtkins_> We actually probably get a better fallback behavior, because it lets you do the fallback directly in image().
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  11. # [00:32] <glenn> any progress on mercurial transition?
  12. # [00:32] <TabAtkins_> For now, I think it's just "use mercurial if you want".
  13. # [00:33] <glenn> i don't find any css repos at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/
  14. # [00:33] <TabAtkins_> Not yet, no. There are some fx repos, though.
  15. # [00:33] <TabAtkins_> Including one of the versions of the combined Transforms spec.
  16. # [00:33] <glenn> i'd like to switch cssom editing to hg
  17. # [00:33] <TabAtkins_> Go ahead and do it, then.
  18. # [00:34] <TabAtkins_> Particularly if you can use one of the tools that imports history from CVS to Hg.
  19. # [00:35] <glenn> should i create a separate cssom repo or a css repo or ???
  20. # [00:35] <TabAtkins_> The current practice seems to be to do a separate repo per spec.
  21. # [00:35] <glenn> not sure i have/need any special privileges to create repo there, but haven't tried
  22. # [00:36] <TabAtkins_> dunno
  23. # [00:37] <glenn> i notice there are a number of "wg" oriented repos, e.g., html, webapps (tests), pfwg, etc
  24. # [00:38] <glenn> i'll attempt to create a generic cssom repo that can hold all of the cssom related specs
  25. # [00:39] <glenn> it can be migrated into a uber-css repo if that is desired
  26. # [00:39] <glenn> any objection?
  27. # [00:39] <TabAtkins_> Not from me.
  28. # [00:40] <plinss> glenn: ping MikeSmith about getting a repo created on that server, he can likely do it
  29. # [00:40] <plinss> We didn't really decide about one repo per spec or one repo for the WG, I'm leaning toward one for the whole WG
  30. # [00:41] <plinss> if you need help capturing the CVS history let me know, I have some experience there
  31. # [00:43] <glenn> yep, i would tend to agree it better to have a single css repo, with subdirs for specs, tests, etc
  32. # [00:43] <plinss> except tests go into the repo at https://hg.csswg.org/test
  33. # [00:44] <glenn> i notice many existing tests under html, webapps repos, etc already
  34. # [00:44] <glenn> webapps repo is mostly test subdirs
  35. # [00:44] <TabAtkins_> Yeah, but we have a specific test system for ourselves.
  36. # [00:44] <plinss> we have a number of tools that interact with the repo on our server
  37. # [00:45] <plinss> since it's hg we may mirror it at dvcs.w3.org someday, but for now, it's just ours
  38. # [00:45] <plinss> FWIW, I admin that server, I can easily setup a repo for our specs there too
  39. # [00:46] <glenn> i can
  40. # [00:46] <plinss> when the rest of the w3c syncs with our testing tools, then we may move entirely to dvcs.w3.org
  41. # [00:46] <glenn> ok
  42. # [00:47] <plinss> they use a version of our harness now, but haven't adopted the build and Shepherd systems yet
  43. # [00:47] <glenn> so, would suggest a hierarchy like css css/cssom css/cssom/{core,view,values} etc? or something flatter like css/{cssom,cssom-view,cssom-values,...}?
  44. # [00:48] <TabAtkins_> I like flatter.
  45. # [00:48] <glenn> plinss: any opinion?
  46. # [00:49] <plinss> I don't feel too strongly, I tend to favor hierarchies. We can always adjust later if it becomes a problem either way
  47. # [00:50] <plinss> Give some thought to future levels of the specs too. Make sure it makes sense down the road.
  48. # [00:51] <TabAtkins_> Hm, good point.
  49. # [00:54] <glenn> one route would be to simply maintaiin the current cvs hierarchy: csswg csswg/cssom csswg/cssom-view
  50. # [00:54] <glenn> but we could use the transition to hg to introduce a little more structure, at the cost of doing it differently
  51. # [00:55] <plinss> My suggestion is to first convert the CVS reop to hg as-is, maintaining all history. Then in hg move directories about to suit.
  52. # [00:56] <glenn> sounds good
  53. # [00:58] <plinss> You probably want to get an empty repo on the server first, and clone it locally so you have the same repo ids and won't run into issues pushing back later
  54. # [01:04] <plinss> TabAtkins_, shepazu: seen this? http://schedule.sxsw.com/2012/events/event_IAP8619
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  57. # [01:05] <shepazu> TabAtkins_: I have never heard of this game, for I am a simple villager
  58. # [01:06] <shepazu> TabAtkins_: I'm thinking about attending Sx this year
  59. # [01:06] <shepazu> still not sure
  60. # [01:06] <TabAtkins_> Heh, hadn't seen it.
  61. # [01:06] <TabAtkins_> shepazu: I'll be there.
  62. # [01:07] <shepazu> oop
  63. # [01:07] <shepazu> that was from plinss, I misread it
  64. # [01:07] <shepazu> plinss, will you be there?
  65. # [01:07] <plinss> working on getting travel approval now...
  66. # [01:08] <TabAtkins_> shepazu: Also, I want to try and play The Resistance, which is a fun no-kill no-God-required variant.
  67. # [01:08] <plinss> if you haven't booked a hotel yet , you're likely screwed
  68. # [01:08] <TabAtkins_> plinss: Unless you can room with someone else.
  69. # [01:08] <plinss> true-dat
  70. # [01:08] * shepazu notes that plinss is a very pale blue on my screen, so his irc nick was less visble than the TabAtkins_ that followed it
  71. # [01:08] <shepazu> TabAtkins_: I will stay with you!!!!!
  72. # [01:08] <TabAtkins_> I presume I'm a pulsing red.
  73. # [01:09] <shepazu> because I wuv you
  74. # [01:09] <plinss> I booked a room with an extra bed for just such an occasion, but my hotel isn't all that close to the venue
  75. # [01:09] <TabAtkins_> shepazu: My second bed is already claimed by Lea and maybe David, but my floor is totally available.
  76. # [01:09] <shepazu> I likely have a local friend I can stay with, axuly
  77. # [01:09] <TabAtkins_> If you can find a local friend, let me know. I could only get a hotel through the 12th, and Lea will be staying through the 14th.
  78. # [01:10] <TabAtkins_> Trying to help her find a place to stay those last two days.
  79. # [01:10] <shepazu> I can ask
  80. # [01:10] <shepazu> since she's local, she might know other people with open couches
  81. # [01:11] <TabAtkins_> Cool, thanks.
  82. # [01:14] <shepazu> plinss, TabAtkins_, have you ever been before?
  83. # [01:14] <plinss> I went last year, well worth it IMO
  84. # [01:14] <shepazu> TabAtkins_, actually, you are a bright purple-red, but more notably, when plinss typed your name, you were black
  85. # [01:15] <plinss> actually too much going on
  86. # [01:15] <TabAtkins_> shepazu: Went last year as well for a panel.
  87. # [01:15] * shepazu is a nobody, never gets invited to panels :(
  88. # [01:15] <shepazu> sniff
  89. # [01:16] <TabAtkins_> ^^;
  90. # [01:16] <TabAtkins_> Yay, got the markup reformat done before boardgame time today.
  91. # [01:16] <TabAtkins_> I can always tell when Alex has been writing significant chunks of Flexbox. ^_^
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  101. # [03:46] <sylvaing> shepazu, I am a nobody too but by the time I get cleared to go the panel is full :(
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