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  17. # [01:42] <fantasai> plinss: Can you point me at the templates for Shepherd's front page? It's starting to frustrate me, so I want to give a pass at mocking up a better version. :)
  18. # [01:43] <plinss> fantasai: no templates
  19. # [01:43] <fantasai> plinss: then where is it generated?
  20. # [01:43] <fantasai> plinss: because that's not a static page
  21. # [01:43] <plinss> http://hg.csswg.org/dev/shepherd/file/tip/pages/WelcomePage.php
  22. # [01:45] <fantasai> plinss: that looks kindof painful to edit :/ but ok...
  23. # [01:46] <plinss> if you just want to mock up something you think is better, feel free to do it in html, I'll write the code...
  24. # [01:47] <fantasai> ok
  25. # [01:59] <fantasai> plinss: do we have a convention for common references (like a "Test passes if there is no red." page)?
  26. # [02:00] <plinss> for the filename? not that I'm aware of.
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  28. # [02:01] <fantasai> plinss: if we have two reference files with the same name, what happens?
  29. # [02:02] <TabAtkins_> Presumably the later one gets taken as an update of the former?
  30. # [02:02] <plinss> same as with support files, build error if they're different
  31. # [02:02] <plinss> for now...
  32. # [02:02] <fantasai> sounds good
  33. # [02:02] <TabAtkins_> Oh, that's better.
  34. # [02:02] <plinss> as far as I know, they're not treated different in the build
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  36. # [02:04] <plinss> fantasai: got a q for you now… if there's a .html file in the support directory, should it get converted to xhtml for xhtml format of the suite?
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  38. # [02:05] <fantasai> plinss: yes
  39. # [02:05] <fantasai> plinss: that's something I never got around to implementing...
  40. # [02:06] <plinss> I noticed… I accidentally turned that conversion on (not sure how just yet), had to write some code to suppress it for now
  41. # [02:06] <fantasai> as long as you're correcting any links to make that work, that counts as a bugfix :)
  42. # [02:06] <plinss> (oh wait, I do know how… the html -> xhtml conversion never really worked at all, I made it work)
  43. # [02:07] <plinss> the problem is correcting the links to the files… don't have time to fix that right now (because they're in all sorts of places…)
  44. # [02:08] <plinss> when I do the general work to find references to support files, I'll turn the conversion back on
  45. # [02:08] <fantasai> ok :)
  46. # [02:08] <fantasai> plinss: btw, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=691950
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  49. # [02:10] <plinss> nice
  50. # [02:10] <fantasai> still quite a bit of work left
  51. # [02:11] <fantasai> e.g. have to sift through already-submitted tests and set them in place so that they're synchronized instead of copied
  52. # [02:11] <plinss> sounds fun, enjoy that...
  53. # [02:11] <fantasai> and on the other end, slurping in approved tests is going to be complicated
  54. # [02:11] <fantasai> because of the build process we use
  55. # [02:13] <fantasai> we might need to set up scripts that do in-place reftest.list generation instead
  56. # [02:13] <fantasai> or something
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  94. # [17:46] <schnozzle> can someone take a look at this page and tell me why the text is flowing off the page? Scroll down some, you'll see it: http://infinitesearchspace.dyndns.org/samegame/tops
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  99. # [18:43] <krit> fantasai: ping
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  111. # [22:31] <fantasai> krit: pong
  112. # [22:32] <krit> hi fantasai. I had a question about reviewing and appriving tests. I did no understand that there is a difference at the beginning
  113. # [22:32] <krit> fantasai: I think I got it now.
  114. # [22:32] <fantasai> krit: ok :)
  115. # [22:33] * fantasai notes we don't have much experience with the reviewing process; most CSS2.1 tests just got approved if they passed in all four browsers
  116. # [22:34] <krit> fantasai: oh. Sad. Because I just run into the next problem :)
  117. # [22:34] <krit> fantasai: http://test.csswg.org/shepherd/testcase/transform-background-001/author/AryehGregor/status/submitted/
  118. # [22:34] <krit> fantasai: I reviewed this test and added me as reviewer
  119. # [22:34] <krit> fantasai: but Shepherd does not recognize that
  120. # [22:35] <krit> fantasai: So it is still awaiting review
  121. # [22:36] <krit> fantasai: (followed http://wiki.csswg.org/test/css2.1/review And because I am not an owner, nor a peer for transforms, I didn't move it to approved)
  122. # [22:37] * fantasai looks
  123. # [22:37] <fantasai> (we didn't have shepherd during the css2.1 cycle...)
  124. # [22:43] <fantasai> krit: I think you need to manually tell Shepherd that the test's status has changed.
  125. # [22:43] <fantasai> krit: ideally, Shepherd should just notice...
  126. # [22:44] <krit> fantasai: I just see the choices 'update', 'Needs work', 'awaiting review' and 'specification issue'.
  127. # [22:44] <krit> s/update/updated/
  128. # [22:47] <krit> fantasai: I wonder if I did point 5 wrong on http://wiki.csswg.org/test/css2.1/review#process but this point seems to indicate that I also moved the test (which I did not)
  129. # [22:48] <fantasai> hmm
  130. # [22:48] <fantasai> ok, I don't know what's going on then :)
  131. # [22:49] <fantasai> krit: can I get back to you on that when I have more stack space available? :)
  132. # [22:49] <krit> fantasai: sure. Thanks
  133. # [22:50] <TabAtkins_> krit: from fantasai: plinss might know.
  134. # [22:50] <TabAtkins_> (Her connection is being very flaky.)
  135. # [22:51] <krit> TabAtkins_: fantasai: I can also mail to public-css-testsuite since more people might be interessted. Thanks.
  136. # [22:53] <plinss> krit: after posting a comment you have to manually change status if needed
  137. # [22:54] <krit> plinss: to "Updated" ?
  138. # [22:54] <krit> plinss: there is no 'approved' or "reviewed" for me
  139. # [22:54] <plinss> If you don't see 'approved' as a choice, then you don't have approval rights
  140. # [22:54] <stearns> plinss: could you give me approval rights for the Regions suite?
  141. # [22:55] <krit> plinss: Yes that is correct. If I understand http://wiki.csswg.org/test/css2.1/review#process correctly I don't need this status to review
  142. # [22:56] <plinss> Stearns: ask fantasai, or I can do it in an hour or so
  143. # [22:57] <stearns> plinss, fantasai: no hurry, whenever you have time
  144. # [22:58] <krit> plinss: Does shepherd need an update to address the review process or am I getting something wrong?
  145. # [22:58] <stearns> plinss: If Dirk and I do not see a 'reviewed' state available, is there something that needs done to Shepherd? ^^
  146. # [23:01] <plinss> The review process was written before we had shepherd, I don't see a point to a 'reviewed and ok but not actually approved' state. But I can add that, I suppose it makes sense for people who don't have approval rights... Fantasai: thoughts?
  147. # [23:01] <fantasai> plinss: If I understood krit correctly, he added a <link rel="reviewer">
  148. # [23:01] <fantasai> plinss: and that didn't trigger any change in Shepherd
  149. # [23:01] <fantasai> plinss: yes, I think having reviewed-not-approved would make sense
  150. # [23:02] <fantasai> plinss: that way an approver could scan through the reviewed-not-approved list and approve those tests.
  151. # [23:02] <plinss> Ok, I'll add that, shouldn't take long.
  152. # [23:03] <stearns> plinss: thanks!
  153. # [23:03] <plinss> FWIW, Shepherd does recognize reviewer links, it just changes state to approved if the reviewer has approval rights.
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  159. # [23:45] <fantasai> plinss: I guess once you add the reviewed state, that should trigger Reviewed if the reviewer doesn't have approval rights
  160. # [23:45] <fantasai> kennyluck++
  161. # [23:45] <fantasai> (Tab and I are going through your css3-values comments. :)
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  164. # [23:46] <kennyluck> fantasai, I am filing one or two more later :p
  165. # [23:51] <fantasai> kennyluck: Tab says "I demand them to be filed *now*."
  166. # [23:51] <fantasai> :)
  167. # [23:52] <kennyluck> T__T
  168. # [23:52] <kennyluck> in this channel?
  169. # [23:52] <stearns> it isn't Tab's birthday. He doesn't get any demands today.
  170. # [23:53] <kennyluck> It's fine if I write in IRC, but I request TabAtkins_ to send the mail to www-style for me :)
  171. # [23:57] <fantasai> kennyluck: well, we'll have to get it to www-style eventually, yes
  172. # [23:57] <fantasai> kennyluck: but we'd like to be able to finish going through the issues today
  173. # [23:59] <kennyluck> fantasai, it'll take me… less than 20 minutes to finish my mail. Or do you need me to just say it now?
  174. # [23:59] <fantasai> kennyluck: go ahead, we're here for another few hours :)
  175. # [23:59] <kennyluck> roger!
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