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  118. # [22:31] <TabAtkins> fantasai: You around? Question about Kenny's issue in the "definition of <value>" thread.
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  120. # [22:31] <fantasai> TabAtkins: yep, I'm here
  121. # [22:32] <TabAtkins> You mind if I change the definition of <value> in the toggle() def to explicitly disallow commas?
  122. # [22:33] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I thought that was the point
  123. # [22:33] <TabAtkins> What do you mean?
  124. # [22:34] <fantasai> I thought commas were supposed to be disallowed already
  125. # [22:34] <fantasai> you can't mparse sensibly otherwise
  126. # [22:34] <fantasai> right?
  127. # [22:34] <TabAtkins> They're only disallowed in that there's only one way to parse it unambiguously.
  128. # [22:35] <TabAtkins> But I can satisfy the grammar production with something that will get parsed badly.
  129. # [22:37] <fantasai> ah
  130. # [22:37] <fantasai> yeah, fix it
  131. # [22:37] <TabAtkins> Kk.
  132. # [22:37] <fantasai> if you can
  133. # [22:37] <TabAtkins> Yeah, it's easy, since <value> is defined in prose anyway.
  134. # [22:37] <fantasai> otherwise just add some prose aobut it
  135. # [22:37] <fantasai> ah
  136. # [22:37] * fantasai wonders why there's such a huge lag in the ssh client
  137. # [22:37] <TabAtkins> Well, reasonably easy. I can't just say "... and without commas", obviously.
  138. # [22:37] <fantasai> heh
  139. # [22:38] <TabAtkins> Oh, but I can just directly disallow "top-level" commas. Easy.
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  141. # [22:42] <fantasai> What is with IANA and IETF not linking to it? So annoying.
  142. # [22:43] <fantasai> </grump>
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  144. # [22:57] <hober> fantasai: srsly
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  146. # [23:08] <fantasai> TabAtkins: btw, if you use <table class="data"> instead of <table>, you'll get magic styling
  147. # [23:08] <TabAtkins> Oh, right, forget about that. I'll go do that.
  148. # [23:08] * fantasai just added that to Appendix A
  149. # [23:09] <fantasai> I also switched our styles to use thin gray lines instead of dotted ones, because browsers suck at rendering dotted lines...
  150. # [23:09] <TabAtkins> d'oh, you should tell me that you've done it *before* you make a comment suggesting that I should do it. Merge conflicts now. >_<
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  152. # [23:10] <fantasai> heh, sorry
  153. # [23:10] <TabAtkins> hg resolve -a, right?
  154. # [23:10] <fantasai> I just wanted to remind you for next time
  155. # [23:10] <fantasai> -m
  156. # [23:10] <fantasai> actually
  157. # [23:10] <fantasai> you probably just want to revert
  158. # [23:10] <fantasai> hg revert filename
  159. # [23:10] <fantasai> if you've already commited, you can destroy the changeset with hg strip changesetnumber
  160. # [23:11] <fantasai> TabAtkins: thoughts on dropping <custom-ident> from L3?
  161. # [23:12] <TabAtkins> I'm fine. We can re-introduce either in Values 4 or Syntax 3.
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  163. # [23:13] <fantasai> cool, let's get the wg to resolve on that, adopt the DoC, and send this thing to CR...
  164. # [23:21] <TabAtkins> fantasai: Are you intending that class=define to do anything?
  165. # [23:21] <fantasai> yep, it makes the last td align=left
  166. # [23:21] * fantasai just added it
  167. # [23:21] <TabAtkins> Ah, kk.
  168. # [23:21] <fantasai> Seems like a reasonably common thing for the last column to have prose, rather than data
  169. # [23:22] <fantasai> so I wanted a class for that, rather than having a class or special markup per td...
  170. # [23:22] * fantasai is open to better class names, though
  171. # [23:22] <TabAtkins> I forget - text-align isn't one of the <col> properties, right?
  172. # [23:22] <fantasai> nope
  173. # [23:22] <TabAtkins> Kk.
  174. # [23:22] <fantasai> well
  175. # [23:22] * TabAtkins wants :col().
  176. # [23:22] <fantasai> <col> has an align attribute
  177. # [23:23] <fantasai> which is supposed to inherit (via HTML inheritance) into the cells
  178. # [23:23] <fantasai> but CSS can't inherit through due to the lack of ancestry
  179. # [23:23] <fantasai> and so I think nobody (except maybe IE) implements it...
  180. # [23:24] <fantasai> me too, but I'm wondering if it shouldn't be a combinator rather than a pseudo-class
  181. # [23:24] <TabAtkins> Only oldIE.
  182. # [23:24] <TabAtkins> Due to their broken table model.
  183. # [23:24] <fantasai> it *is* expressing a relationship between two elements, just like the tree-based combinators
  184. # [23:24] <TabAtkins> I'm fine with combinators too, since we already have the right one - "col.prose // td".
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  192. # [23:56] <fantasai> TabAtkins: So, I think the DoC and specs are about as ready as they can be at this point.
  193. # [23:56] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-values/issues-lc-2012
  194. # [23:56] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-flexbox/issues-lc-2012
  195. # [23:56] <fantasai> I guess the next thing to do is figure out the Appendix E + Flexbox issue...
  196. # [23:57] <hober> it makes me sad when level N RECs don't point from TR to dev.w3.org for level N+1
  197. # [23:58] <fantasai> well, in an ideal world, we wouldn't use dev.w3.org for anything escept scratch space
  198. # [23:58] <fantasai> except
  199. # [23:58] <fantasai> but pointing to N+1 is something to thing about for the spec template efforts...
  200. # [23:58] * fantasai should add that to the list of metadata
  201. # [23:59] <fantasai> hober: on the plus side, we're shifting towards having unlevelled URLs that point at the current levelled spec
  202. # [23:59] <fantasai> hober: e.g. /TR/selectors/ works now
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