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  20. # [17:59] <plinss> zakim, this will be style
  21. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, plinss; I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
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  34. # [18:07] <SimonSapin> the conf call changes timezones next week, right?
  35. # [18:07] <kenneth> oh?
  36. # [18:08] <Zakim> + +1.512.199.aaaa
  37. # [18:09] <plinss> zakim, aaaa is SimonSapin
  38. # [18:09] <Zakim> +SimonSapin; got it
  39. # [18:09] <SimonSapin> I think it’s noon Boston time, but there is a DST change
  40. # [18:09] <SimonSapin> strange, I should be calling from +33something, not +1
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  47. # [18:10] <plinss> zakim, ?P28 is kenneth
  48. # [18:10] <Zakim> sorry, plinss, I do not recognize a party named '?P28'
  49. # [18:10] <lstorset> Zakim, aabb is me
  50. # [18:10] <Zakim> +lstorset; got it
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  52. # [18:10] <plinss> zakim, P28 is kenneth
  53. # [18:10] <Zakim> sorry, plinss, I do not recognize a party named 'P28'
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  55. # [18:11] <plinss> zakim, who is on the phone?
  56. # [18:11] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P28, plinss, SimonSapin, lstorset, Stearns
  57. # [18:11] <darktears> I believe I was the first one :) Alexis Menard :)
  58. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.619.846.aacc
  59. # [18:11] <kenneth> zakim, ??P28 is kenneth
  60. # [18:11] <Zakim> +kenneth; got it
  61. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +93550aadd
  62. # [18:11] <antonp> Zakim, aadd is me
  63. # [18:11] <Zakim> +antonp; got it
  64. # [18:11] <plinss> zakim, ??P1 is darktears
  65. # [18:11] <Zakim> +darktears; got it
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  67. # [18:12] <Zakim> +fantasai
  68. # [18:12] <tantek> Good morning. I am at a conference and will be participating by IRC only.
  69. # [18:12] <tantek> Zakim, +tantek
  70. # [18:12] <Zakim> I wonder where tantek is
  71. # [18:12] <tantek> :D
  72. # [18:13] <Zakim> -SimonSapin
  73. # [18:13] <Zakim> + +1.604.312.aaee
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  76. # [18:13] <dbaron> Zakim, aaff is dbaron
  77. # [18:13] <Zakim> +dbaron; got it
  78. # [18:13] <koji> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
  79. # [18:13] <Zakim> +koji; got it
  80. # [18:13] <rbetts> Zakim, aaee is me
  81. # [18:13] <Zakim> +rbetts; got it
  82. # [18:13] <Zakim> +SteveZ
  83. # [18:13] * dbaron found it pretty annoying when the keypad on his phone decided to stop working after the 789 of the 78953 passcode, and he had to dial all over again
  84. # [18:14] * kenneth dbaron - firefox os? :-)
  85. # [18:14] * dbaron no, a plain old landline phone
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  87. # [18:14] <antonp> @dbaron, and the waiting is such fun. The guy doesn't like being interrupted
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  91. # [18:15] <smfr> Zakim, aaii is me
  92. # [18:15] <Zakim> +smfr; got it
  93. # [18:15] <Zakim> + +1.281.305.aajj
  94. # [18:15] <smfr> stupid zakim
  95. # [18:15] <smfr> someone should fix it
  96. # [18:16] * Zakim hears +33.9.52.34.aahh's hand up
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  101. # [18:16] <SimonSapin> Zakim, aahh is me
  102. # [18:16] <Zakim> +SimonSapin; got it
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  105. # [18:16] <krit> zakim, who is on the phone?
  106. # [18:16] <Zakim> On the phone I see darktears, kenneth, plinss, lstorset, Stearns, +1.619.846.aacc, antonp, fantasai, rbetts, koji, dbaron, SteveZ, +1.415.832.aagg, SimonSapin, smfr,
  107. # [18:16] <Zakim> ... +1.281.305.aajj
  108. # [18:17] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  109. # [18:17] <krit> Zakim, aagg is me
  110. # [18:17] <Zakim> +krit; got it
  111. # [18:17] * smfr changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Oct/0459.html'
  112. # [18:17] <Zakim> +??P84
  113. # [18:17] <fantasai> ScribeNick: fantasai
  114. # [18:17] <arronei> zakim, microsoft has me
  115. # [18:17] <Zakim> +arronei; got it
  116. # [18:17] <Zakim> -kenneth
  117. # [18:18] <fantasai> plinss: Additions to agenda?
  118. # [18:18] <fantasai> Topic: css3-conditional
  119. # [18:19] <fantasai> ...
  120. # [18:19] <fantasai> fantasai: If we're treating unknown things as false, we should treat more things that are unknown as false
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  123. # [18:20] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  124. # [18:20] <fantasai> fantasai: e.g. right now anything that doesn't parse as a declaration inside parens will make the whole rule invalid
  125. # [18:20] <sylvaing> Zakim, [Microsoft.a] has me
  126. # [18:20] <Zakim> +sylvaing; got it
  127. # [18:20] <fantasai> dbaron: I think that's fine, why would we want anything else in there
  128. # [18:21] <fantasai> dbaron: We are making functional notation the way for future extensibility
  129. # [18:21] <fantasai> fantasai: Are we sure that's how we want to do it?
  130. # [18:21] <fantasai> dbaron: Yes, that was why we're doing it this way.
  131. # [18:22] <fantasai> ...
  132. # [18:22] <fantasai> fantasai: So, the bare parentheses is in effect a functional notation (without a name) that accepts property declarations
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  134. # [18:22] * kenneth i cannot hear anyone, so I will reconnect
  135. # [18:22] <fantasai> fantasai: If the contents are not a property declaraiton, the entire rule is invalid
  136. # [18:23] <Zakim> +??P92
  137. # [18:23] <fantasai> fantasai: Whereas for other functions right now, regardless of what they contain, they're as false, and do not make the entire thing invalid
  138. # [18:23] <SteveZ> s/raiton/ration/
  139. # [18:23] <kenneth> Zakim, +??P92 is me
  140. # [18:23] <Zakim> sorry, kenneth, I do not recognize a party named '+??P92'
  141. # [18:23] <kenneth> Zakim, ??P92 is me
  142. # [18:23] <Zakim> +kenneth; got it
  143. # [18:23] <fantasai> fantasai: However, suppose we introduced a function in the future that took xyz production.
  144. # [18:23] <fantasai> fantasai: If a stylesheet contained that function with invalid contents
  145. # [18:24] <fantasai> fantasai: If we followed the same pattern of making the entire rule invalid because the contents don't parse correctly
  146. # [18:24] <SimonSapin> fantasai: good point
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  148. # [18:24] <fantasai> fantasai: That would mean that old UAs would treat it as false, but new UAs would make the entire rule invalid
  149. # [18:25] <plinss> zakim, who is noisy?
  150. # [18:25] <Zakim> plinss, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fantasai (54%), dbaron (9%)
  151. # [18:25] * kenneth im mute
  152. # [18:26] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Functional notation is false no matter what it contains
  153. # [18:26] <fantasai> fantasai: My point is, either you are getting the weird behavior between old/new UAs that I explained OR you are treating the invalidation rules of bare parens different from functional notations, which is inconsistent.
  154. # [18:27] <fantasai> dbaron: It's a bit complicated, because the contents of a parentheses could either be property declaration or be a logical clause
  155. # [18:27] <fantasai> dbaron: I'm okay either way
  156. # [18:27] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I'd like to think about this a bit
  157. # [18:28] <fantasai> dbaron: But it would require redoing a bit of our implementation. But if we decide it's the right thing, we'll do it.
  158. # [18:29] <fantasai> s/weird/inconsistent/
  159. # [18:29] <fantasai> Topic: Text Decoration
  160. # [18:29] <stearns> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Aug/0379.html
  161. # [18:29] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-decor-3/#text-decoration-line-property
  162. # [18:31] <fantasai> fantasai explains the proposal
  163. # [18:31] <fantasai> fantasai: We're looking for feedback
  164. # [18:31] <fantasai> smfr: Our engineer prefers the behavior to be the same as the system text in OSX
  165. # [18:31] <fantasai> smfr: It's less complicated than this.
  166. # [18:32] <fantasai> smfr: Takes the thickest underline, and [position]
  167. # [18:32] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  168. # [18:32] <JohnJansen> Zakim, Microsoft has JohnJansen
  169. # [18:32] <Zakim> +JohnJansen; got it
  170. # [18:32] <fantasai> smfr: An underline with a superscript or subscript span inside of it, the underline remains at the baseline, doesn't jump up
  171. # [18:33] <fantasai> smfr: That means subscript can draw on top of underline, and that's okay I think
  172. # [18:33] <fantasai> smfr: No way for strike-through to be consistent on MacOSX -- it will jump around with the font size
  173. # [18:33] <fantasai> smfr: Didn't test overline. Don't think we hvae it
  174. # [18:34] <fantasai> fantasai: One option I was considered was for strike-through to shift when the font-size changed, but not when the font changed.
  175. # [18:34] <fantasai> fantasai: When you have different fonts in the same size, you can get very different metrics because relationship of baseline to embox is different in different fonts
  176. # [18:35] <fantasai> dbaron: How do you combine that with the features in CSS3 Text that allow underlining various things that aren't text?
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  178. # [18:35] <fantasai> smfr: No idea
  179. # [18:36] <dbaron> (actually, I think to answer my own question: just use the element's font metrics, even if it's not text)
  180. # [18:36] <fantasai> smfr^: The strike-through shifts around with the font, even if the size is constant
  181. # [18:37] <fantasai> dbaron: Assume the first font you have is the one you're using, and use its metrics
  182. # [18:37] <hober> Zakim, aacc is me
  183. # [18:37] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  184. # [18:37] <fantasai> szilles: My concern is mixing Chinese and English text, will the strike-through be reasonable
  185. # [18:37] <Zakim> -Stearns
  186. # [18:37] <Zakim> + +1.425.753.aakk
  187. # [18:37] <fantasai> szilles: e.g. Latin-only font for English, CJK font I only use for the Chinese
  188. # [18:37] <arronei> Example case: http://test.csswg.org/source/contributors/microsoft/incoming/text-decoration.htm
  189. # [18:38] <Zakim> +Stearns
  190. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Stearns
  191. # [18:38] <fantasai> fantasai: I think it's important that we not shift the line as the font changes. That's been a principle we've adhered to in all our text-decoration discussions in CSS
  192. # [18:38] <Zakim> -kenneth
  193. # [18:39] <fantasai> fantasai: The reason why we've always insisted on one line
  194. # [18:39] <fantasai> smfr: Think overline should shift with the font sizes
  195. # [18:39] <fantasai> smfr: ...
  196. # [18:39] <Zakim> +Stearns
  197. # [18:39] <fantasai> fantasai: The problems you have with overlining would apply to underlines if the dominant baseline were not alphabetic, e.g. using central baseline
  198. # [18:40] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Mac's system text underline already does averaging stuff
  199. # [18:41] <fantasai> TabAtkins: line-through is jumpier than we'd like, should be made not jumpy across font changes
  200. # [18:41] <fantasai> TabAtkins: can't use it for overlines anyway
  201. # [18:41] <Zakim> +??P43
  202. # [18:41] <kenneth> Zakim, ??P43 is me
  203. # [18:41] <Zakim> +kenneth; got it
  204. # [18:41] <fantasai> szilles: Say I'm typing this stuff in. If I put a strike-through in it, would it move?
  205. # [18:42] <fantasai> TabAtkins: [...]
  206. # [18:42] <fantasai> fantasai: So, we're going to go with this, except line-throughs will recalculate whenever 'font-size' changes, but not when font face changes
  207. # [18:44] <fantasai> fantasai: One thing to be careful of -- the font-size-adjust property effectively changes the font size, but its intention is to equalize the visual font sizes across various font faces
  208. # [18:44] <fantasai> fantasai: We should only key off computed 'font-size'
  209. # [18:44] <fantasai> smfr asks about alphabetic underlines not responding to subscripts
  210. # [18:44] <fantasai> fantasai points out we're skipping any boxes that have different vertical-align
  211. # [18:45] * dbaron Zakim, who is noisy?
  212. # [18:45] * Zakim dbaron, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fantasai (79%)
  213. # [18:46] <fantasai> smfr: If a line of text has two separate inline boxes, separated by some non-underlined text, would the lines have to be consistent?
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  215. # [18:46] <fantasai> TabAtkins: No, it's only consistent if the underline originates from the same decorating box
  216. # [18:47] <fantasai> smfr: ...
  217. # [18:47] <fantasai> smfr: you want to avoid the underline jumping around through editing operations
  218. # [18:47] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I think we should say it's up to the editing tool, to merge underlining elements
  219. # [18:48] <fantasai> TabAtkins: underlining from different elements can be different colors [...]
  220. # [18:48] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Could do averaging across line box, rather than just within fragment
  221. # [18:48] <fantasai> szilles: why would you necessarily want that?
  222. # [18:49] <fantasai> szilles: if I do make a font size change, and want the underlines to be different
  223. # [18:49] <fantasai> szilles: fact that they land on the same line shouldn't make them be the same
  224. # [18:49] <fantasai> szilles: Also, this way if someone really wants ransom-not effect, can get it by making different elements
  225. # [18:49] <fantasai> s/-not/-note/
  226. # [18:50] <fantasai> szilles: whether two elements are on the same line or not shouldn't matter
  227. # [18:50] <dbaron> (agreement with szilles)
  228. # [18:50] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Ok, so we need to to revisit text to clarify it
  229. # [18:50] <fantasai> fantasai: and change the line-through behavior
  230. # [18:51] <fantasai> koji asks about why overline would be under / underline would be over
  231. # [18:51] <fantasai> fantasai: If we have text-underline-position: above;
  232. # [18:51] <fantasai> fantasai: This puts the underline on the over side
  233. # [18:51] <fantasai> TabAtkins: in vertical text
  234. # [18:52] <fantasai> fantasai: That would put the underline and overline on the same side, so we made overline also switch sides
  235. # [18:52] <fantasai> koji: I thought we weren't doing that
  236. # [18:52] <fantasai> "If this causes the underline to be drawn on the "over" side of the text, then an overline also switches sides and is drawn on the "under" side. "
  237. # [18:53] <fantasai> fantasai: This way if you say 'text-decoration: underline overline', you will get lines on either side of the text regardless
  238. # [18:55] <fantasai> RESOLVED: Accept the proposed rules for line decoration averaging, but change line-throughs to recalculate whenever computed 'font-size' changes.
  239. # [18:56] <fantasai> Topic: UTR50
  240. # [18:56] <Zakim> -kenneth
  241. # [18:56] <Zakim> +Bert
  242. # [18:56] <fantasai> koji: Status is UTR#50v6 is supposed to be published
  243. # [18:56] <dbaron> Zakim, mute Bert
  244. # [18:56] <Zakim> Bert should now be muted
  245. # [18:57] * Bert excuses for being late
  246. # [18:57] <fantasai> koji: In the UTC rules, file is there, but it's not official
  247. # [18:57] <fantasai> koji: I'm requesting Eric to make it published, but not getting a response
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  249. # [18:57] <fantasai> koji: I am preparing v7, it's still in review
  250. # [18:58] * glazou sorry for not attending, blocked in massive traffic jams
  251. # [18:58] <fantasai> koji: For v7, I own the text part, but the data is owned by Laurentiu at MSFT
  252. # [18:58] * kenneth i keep dropping out and now it wont reconnect
  253. # [18:58] <fantasai> koji: data part is late, b/c he was off for a bit
  254. # [18:58] <fantasai> koji: ... text part, data part later
  255. # [18:58] <fantasai> koji: That's the status
  256. # [18:59] <fantasai> Topic: grid-layout
  257. # [18:59] <PhilCupp> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-grid-layout/#changes-from-previous-version
  258. # [18:59] <fantasai> plinss: Request to publish updated WD
  259. # [18:59] <fantasai> PhilCupp: We haven't published in a while
  260. # [18:59] * glazou agrees with that
  261. # [19:00] <fantasai> PhilCupp: There were 3 batches of changes, don't change anything conceptually, but syntactic things that we agreed to
  262. # [19:00] <fantasai> PhilCupp: Want to get a WD out before starting to work on integrating plinss's approach
  263. # [19:00] <fantasai> plinss: I'm fine with that
  264. # [19:00] * fantasai grand bouteillage? :)
  265. # [19:00] <SteveZ> I am fine with that also
  266. # [19:00] <fantasai> RESOLVED: Publish
  267. # [19:00] * sylvaing fantasai, nice!
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  269. # [19:00] <fantasai> plinss: Plans for moving forward?
  270. # [19:01] <fantasai> PhilCupp: Will be in touch with Tab and fantasai to figure out what changes we want to make
  271. # [19:01] * sylvaing ...though you're making me thirsty...
  272. # [19:01] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I'll be working on it
  273. # [19:01] <fantasai> plinss: Will you be at TPAC?
  274. # [19:01] <koji> One correction to UTR#50 -- data is co-owned by me and Laurentiu at MSFT
  275. # [19:01] * glazou is drinking a beer for sylvaing
  276. # [19:01] * Bert is sure we'll have some bouteilles in Lyon :-)
  277. # [19:02] <fantasai> PhilCupp: No, can call in though
  278. # [19:02] <fantasai> plinss: BTW, our agenda looks light. Please add things to the wiki
  279. # [19:02] <fantasai> plinss: If have more notice ahead of time, can plan schedule better
  280. # [19:02] <Bert> (pointer to wiki page?)
  281. # [19:02] <fantasai> plinss: Also there's a W3C developer meetup on Monday night
  282. # [19:02] <plinss> http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/meetup-Lyon.html
  283. # [19:02] <fantasai> plinss: If you want to go, register soon
  284. # [19:03] <fantasai> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/tpac-2012
  285. # [19:03] <fantasai> Topic: SVG Property review
  286. # [19:03] <smfr> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012Sep/0225.html
  287. # [19:04] <fantasai> dbaron: Has anyone else looked at them?
  288. # [19:04] <fantasai> TabAtkins: I have
  289. # [19:04] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Just had some small comments
  290. # [19:04] <fantasai> dbaron: I wanted to look at something specific, but forgot what it was
  291. # [19:04] <fantasai> sylvaing: Was it painting order naming?
  292. # [19:04] <fantasai> sylvaing: I thought it was awkward too, but had no proposal to revise it
  293. # [19:05] <fantasai> dbaron: Maybe say we're not quite comfortable with that naming, but don't have a new proposal
  294. # [19:05] <SteveZ> +1 for WG position
  295. # [19:06] <fantasai> fantasai: seems like the WG as a whole has this opinion, so maybe send that as a WG opinion
  296. # [19:06] <fantasai> plinss: Ok, I'll send that feedback on behalf of the WG
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  299. # [19:07] <fantasai> Topic: logical directions
  300. # [19:07] <fantasai> koji: before/after vs. head/foot
  301. # [19:08] <fantasai> koji: Problem is i18nwg will discuss at TPAC on this topic, and hope to come up with a resolution as a WG
  302. # [19:08] <fantasai> koji: Since CSSWG is before i18nwg conference, I recommended individuals in the i18nwg to send comments earlier
  303. # [19:08] <fantasai> plinss: Daniel requested a joint meeting with i18n at TPAC
  304. # [19:09] <fantasai> plinss: Don't know if that will happen
  305. # [19:09] <fantasai> koji: Not sure if Addison wants to make this a joint topic
  306. # [19:09] <Zakim> -smfr
  307. # [19:09] <Zakim> - +1.425.753.aakk
  308. # [19:09] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  309. # [19:09] <fantasai> Meeting closed.
  310. # [19:09] <Zakim> -krit
  311. # [19:09] <Zakim> - +1.281.305.aajj
  312. # [19:09] <Zakim> -lstorset
  313. # [19:09] <Zakim> -??P84
  314. # [19:09] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  315. # [19:09] <Zakim> -hober
  316. # [19:09] <Zakim> -dbaron
  317. # [19:09] <Zakim> -Bert
  318. # [19:09] <Zakim> -plinss
  319. # [19:09] <Zakim> -koji
  320. # [19:09] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
  321. # [19:09] <Zakim> -Stearns
  322. # [19:09] <Zakim> -darktears
  323. # [19:09] <Zakim> -SteveZ
  324. # [19:09] <Zakim> -SimonSapin
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  326. # [19:09] <TabAtkins> zakim, aajj is me
  327. # [19:09] <Zakim> sorry, TabAtkins, I do not recognize a party named 'aajj'
  328. # [19:09] <Zakim> -rbetts
  329. # [19:09] <TabAtkins> Dammit, too late.
  330. # [19:10] <Zakim> -antonp
  331. # [19:10] <TabAtkins> How do I tell Zakim that I attended?
  332. # [19:10] <koji> I guess there was a command to add attendees but don't remember
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  334. # [19:11] <Bert> present+ Tab
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  336. # [19:11] <Bert> But that's for rrsagent, not zakim
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  338. # [19:11] <Bert> And we rarely use rrsagent
  339. # [19:13] <dbaron> Zakim, aajj was TabAtkins
  340. # [19:13] <Zakim> I don't understand 'aajj was TabAtkins', dbaron
  341. # [19:13] <koji> zakim, Tab is in Style_CSS
  342. # [19:13] <Zakim> sorry, koji, I do not recognize a party named 'Style_CSS'
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  344. # [19:14] <TabAtkins> Meh.
  345. # [19:15] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, fantasai, in Style_CSS FP()12:00PM
  346. # [19:15] <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has ended
  347. # [19:15] <Zakim> Attendees were plinss, +1.512.199.aaaa, SimonSapin, +47.23.69.aabb, Stearns, lstorset, +1.619.846.aacc, kenneth, +93550aadd, antonp, darktears, fantasai, +1.604.312.aaee,
  348. # [19:15] <Zakim> ... +1.415.766.aaff, dbaron, koji, rbetts, SteveZ, +1.415.832.aagg, +33.9.52.34.aahh, +1.408.636.aaii, smfr, +1.281.305.aajj, krit, arronei, [Microsoft], sylvaing, JohnJansen,
  349. # [19:15] <Zakim> ... hober, +1.425.753.aakk, Bert
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