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  19. # [01:40] <fantasai> cabanier: Yes, I will send out the minutes.
  20. # [01:40] <fantasai> cabanier: Thanks for taking them!
  21. # [01:41] <cabanier> k
  22. # [01:41] <cabanier> too bad my item fell off :-(
  23. # [01:44] <fantasai> didn't get to viewport units either
  24. # [01:44] <fantasai> next time...
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  136. # [20:32] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: ping
  137. # [20:32] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: pong
  138. # [20:33] <TabAtkins> Yo, on Feb 14 (while you're staying at our place), my wife and I and some friends of ours are going to a wine tasting + small bits + s'mores event for dinner that evening.
  139. # [20:33] <TabAtkins> It's $45 a person. You wanna come? We're about to order tickets and want to ensure everyone's in teh same group, so we're checking with you now. ^_^
  140. # [20:33] <TabAtkins> s/bits/bites/
  141. # [20:34] <Ms2ger> Hmm, getting drunk with TabAtkins sounds like fun :)
  142. # [20:34] <SimonSapin> sure, sounds fun ^^
  143. # [20:34] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: It is!
  144. # [20:34] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: kk
  145. # [20:35] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Also, what were the exact dates you're staying with us again?
  146. # [20:35] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: 12~15
  147. # [20:36] <TabAtkins> kk
  148. # [20:36] <TabAtkins> Oh, duh, that's already marked on our calendar.
  149. # [20:36] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: What country are you in, so I can try to hook up with you next time I'm in the area?
  150. # [20:37] <Ms2ger> You don't know that? How disappointing :):
  151. # [20:37] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: Man, I'm not privy to your crazy Mozilla secrets.
  152. # [20:37] * Ms2ger scratches some dots off his chin
  153. # [20:37] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: also, I think you recommended renting a car and that sounds like a good idea indeed. Anything specific to do/avoid for this?
  154. # [20:37] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Not particularly. Any of the major car rental places is fine.
  155. # [20:46] * TabAtkins has no idea what Ms2ger's last action means.
  156. # [20:46] <Ms2ger> ":):"
  157. # [20:48] <TabAtkins> Gah, of course. Now, which dots are the chin, and which are the eyes?
  158. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> The rightmost ones
  159. # [20:49] <TabAtkins> That's good.
  160. # [20:49] <TabAtkins> This is why you should use less directionally ambiguous smilies.
  161. # [20:49] <TabAtkins> Like ^_^
  162. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> ^_^
  163. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> …
  164. # [20:49] <Ms2ger> Like this?
  165. # [20:49] <TabAtkins> ...yes?
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  170. # [21:03] <SimonSapin> http://xkcd.com/1137/
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  173. # [21:27] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: do you know a reason why CSS’s "non-ASCII" starts at U+00A0 rather than U+0080?
  174. # [21:31] <SimonSapin> see also www-style
  175. # [21:47] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Because 80-9F are non-printing characters.
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  177. # [21:47] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: Unicode has many other non-characters
  178. # [21:48] <TabAtkins> Yup, but there's no reason to start our non-ASCII range off on a non-printing character that you shouldn't use anyway. Might as well shift it up by 32 and start it on the first useful character.
  179. # [21:48] <TabAtkins> Isolating the other non-printing chars in unicode isn't worth the trouble, though.
  180. # [21:53] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: it makes harder to write at tokenizer that works with UTF-8 bytes and pretend that individual bytes are the corresponding code points
  181. # [21:53] <TabAtkins> The correct answer is to not do that. ^_^
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  183. # [21:54] <SimonSapin> eh
  184. # [21:54] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: Why not? What do you gain by the added complexity?
  185. # [21:55] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: Because confusing a representation with the underlying concept can confuse other things, generally.
  186. # [21:55] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: yeah, but "I know
  187. # [21:55] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: But think of the PHP implementors!
  188. # [21:55] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: yeah, but "I know what I’m doing!"
  189. # [21:55] <TabAtkins> gsnedders: I try not to.
  190. # [21:55] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Sure you do. ^_^
  191. # [21:56] <gsnedders> TabAtkins: I try not to. Then get dragged down into it.
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  194. # [21:57] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins: also, calling U+0080~U+009F ASCII is *wrong* http://xkcd.com/386/ ;)
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  196. # [21:58] <TabAtkins> Haha.
  197. # [21:58] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Anyway, as I responded in the thread, I see no good reason to have it one way or the other, and assume zero compat risk, so I'm fine with changing it.
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