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  10. # [00:18] <fantasai> TabAtkins_: http://www.w3.org/mid/51233179.90802@kozea.fr
  11. # [00:20] <SimonSapin> fantasai: we resolved that one one #+IDENT, right?
  12. # [00:20] <TabAtkins_> SimonSapin: Did we? When?
  13. # [00:20] <SimonSapin> I don’t know, I’m asking :p
  14. # [00:20] <tantek> so I used to think that, but since HTML now allows for IDs that start with a number, CSS ID selector should too
  15. # [00:20] <SimonSapin> but all implementations seem to be doing this since forever
  16. # [00:21] <TabAtkins_> We're making a list of Selectors issues to talk about on the call.
  17. # [00:21] <TabAtkins_> We're gonna try and just adopt the quirk behavior.
  18. # [00:21] <SimonSapin> tantek: that’s only about CSS parsing: eg #1lipsum vs. #\31lipsum
  19. # [00:21] <tantek> I think the expanding of "what is a valid ID" in HTML is sufficient justification to change this
  20. # [00:21] <TabAtkins_> tantek: Yup.
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  22. # [00:22] <tantek> ok, thanks TabAtkins, just wanted to make sure I understand what was going on
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  24. # [00:22] <SimonSapin> TabAtkins_: oh, right, I ran tests without a doctype, so in quirks mode.
  25. # [00:23] <SimonSapin> I would support a change here, if browser vendors are willing to follow. We could get rid of the "type" flag of ID selectors.
  26. # [00:23] <SimonSapin> s/flag of ID selectors/flag of hash tokens/
  27. # [00:24] <SimonSapin> so yeah, keeping this as an open issue is good I guess.
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  65. # [04:10] <birtles> krit: about using select() over child()
  66. # [04:10] <birtles> ... my original proposal was to use child()
  67. # [04:10] <birtles> ... but I think there was some talk about it being able to select descendants as well?
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  70. # [04:11] <birtles> ... log here: http://www.w3.org/2012/07/23-svg-irc#T18-52-50
  71. # [04:11] <birtles> oh, he's gone :)
  72. # [04:12] <fantasai> birtles: If it does, then select() would be fine, but right now it doesn't...
  73. # [04:13] <fantasai> birtles: so I think it should either be child() or should select descendants :)
  74. # [04:14] <birtles> fantasai: agreed. Looking at that log TabAtkins_ suggested it could select a non-child
  75. # [04:14] <birtles> fantasai: maybe in case you wrapped the mask in something?
  76. # [04:14] <birtles> fantasai: but unless we can remember why, I think it should be just children and we should rename it to child()
  77. # [04:14] * fantasai ok with that
  78. # [04:17] <fantasai> RRSAgent: pointer
  79. # [04:17] <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/04/04-css-irc#T02-21-03
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  135. # [16:07] <kinnngg> hi
  136. # [16:08] <kinnngg> Is here any room for ajax and php related help?
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  138. # [16:09] <kinnngg> Is here any room for ajax and php related help?
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  141. # [16:17] <sgalineau> nope
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  187. # [21:04] <paul___irish> TabAtkins_: there are discussions around "element queries" somewhere, right? http://ianstormtaylor.com/media-queries-are-a-hack/
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