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- # [17:23] <jdaggett> greetings!
- # [17:24] <Ms2ger> Isn't it really late or really early for you?
- # [17:27] <jdaggett> really late...
- # [17:27] <jdaggett> must... keep... eyes... open...
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- # [17:52] <plinss> zakim, this will be style
- # [17:52] <Zakim> ok, plinss; I see Style_CSS FP()12:00PM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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- # [17:57] <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has now started
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- # [17:58] <nvdbleek> zakim, code?
- # [17:58] <Zakim> the conference code is 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), nvdbleek
- # [17:58] <Zakim> +??P13
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- # [17:59] <Ms2ger> nvdbleek, if you have letters on your buttons, it spells "style"
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- # [18:07] <Rossen> zakim, microsoft is me
- # [18:07] <Zakim> +Rossen; got it
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- # [18:07] <fantasai> ScribeNick: fantasai
- # [18:07] <fantasai> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0178.html
- # [18:07] <fantasai> plinss: follow-up from last week, publishing Box Alignment?
- # [18:08] * dbaron meant to read it but didn't have a chance
- # [18:08] <fantasai> plinss: Did anyone read/review it? Ready to publish?
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- # [18:08] <fantasai> jdaggett: FPWD or WD?
- # [18:08] <fantasai> plinss: WD
- # [18:09] <fantasai> RESOLVED: Publish Box Alignment WD
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- # [18:09] <jdaggett> http://wiki.csswg.org/planning/tokyo-2013
- # [18:09] <fantasai> jdaggett: Looking for input from WG if need any more logistical info
- # [18:10] <fantasai> jdaggett: If you have questions, etc.
- # [18:10] <fantasai> Rossen: More explanation of hotels?
- # [18:11] <fantasai> ...
- # [18:11] <fantasai> fantasai: Google Maps will give walking directions
- # [18:12] <jdaggett> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013May/0153.html
- # [18:13] <fantasai> jdaggett: Definition of synthetic oblique doesn't say which way to slant
- # [18:13] <fantasai> jdaggett: Particularly in vertical text case, is complicated due to mixed orientation
- # [18:13] <fantasai> jdaggett: Multiple possibilities
- # [18:13] <jdaggett> http://koji.ec/archives/7
- # [18:14] <fantasai> jdaggett: Most significant options are 6 and 8
- # [18:14] <fantasai> jdaggett: Most browsers slant towards the right when making synthetic italics
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- # [18:14] <fantasai> jdaggett: 8 is what WebKit does, 6 is what IE10 does
- # [18:14] * dino zakim, passcode
- # [18:14] * Zakim I don't understand 'passcode', dino
- # [18:15] * dino zakim, passcode?
- # [18:15] * Zakim saw 78953 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org) given for the conference code, dino
- # [18:15] <fantasai> jdaggett: There is a tradition of obliquing in Japanese that iscloser to 6, however in case of font-style property, doesn't make sense to try to shoehorn this into obliquing
- # [18:15] <Zakim> +[Apple]
- # [18:15] <fantasai> jdaggett: Should have property that handles explicit obliquing.
- # [18:15] <fantasai> jdaggett: Should handle not just shearing, but rotating glyphs
- # [18:16] * dino zakim, [Apple] is me
- # [18:16] * Zakim +dino; got it
- # [18:16] <fantasai> jdaggett: Koji also brought up Arabic and Hebrew in original email
- # [18:16] <fantasai> jdaggett: Very interesting cases, because not clear whether should slant to left or to right
- # [18:16] <fantasai> jdaggett: Adobe fonts created both versions in many cases
- # [18:16] <fantasai> jdaggett: Not an easy problem to tackle
- # [18:16] <fantasai> jdaggett: Would prefer not to tackle things in Fonts spec in current state
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- # [18:17] <fantasai> jdaggett: I think we should just define what browsers do now, and not try and do what IE behavior is
- # [18:17] <fantasai> jdaggett: Because font style is about font selection
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- # [18:17] <fantasai> jdaggett: Only case when you get a synthetic oblique is when there's not a real oblique defined
- # [18:17] <fantasai> jdaggett: So should try to define behavior that only happens in fallback cas
- # [18:17] <fantasai> e
- # [18:18] <fantasai> jdaggett: So propose wording to say that synthetic oblique always goes to the right, which is what browsers do today except IE
- # [18:18] <fantasai> fantasai: There's a problem here, wish Koji was on the call to explain it better.
- # [18:18] <TabAtkins_> zakim, aaii is me
- # [18:18] <Zakim> +TabAtkins_; got it
- # [18:18] <fantasai> fantasai: Problem is when you have Roman characters that don't have italics
- # [18:18] <fantasai> fantasai: And you try to synthesize it with this method, slanting to the right
- # [18:19] <fantasai> fantasai: What you get is number 7
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- # [18:20] <fantasai> fantasai: When you are slanting rotated text to the right, you are skewing to the right, which creates wiggly text
- # [18:20] * tantek is on irc only today.
- # [18:20] <stearns> isn't it slanting to the end edge more than the right?
- # [18:21] <fantasai> stearns, no, it's slanting to line-left, because in Hebrew we synthesize right slant
- # [18:22] <dino> fwiw, we have a bug in WebKit on this that I'm trying to fix. We apply a horizontal skew, no matter what (which we think is wrong). I'm happy for us to decide what the correct result should be.
- # [18:22] <fantasai> jdaggett: Synthetic face means you make synthetic glyphs that are slanted to the right, and then typset it.
- # [18:22] <stearns> I'm all for describing current browser behavior for this error condition. I don't think we should be spending time trying to make this work precisely correctly, because it's an error to have faux italic in all cases
- # [18:22] <dino> q+
- # [18:22] * Zakim sees dino on the speaker queue
- # [18:23] <fantasai> dino: Have a bug in WebKit on this that publishers complain about
- # [18:23] <plinss> ack dino
- # [18:23] <fantasai> dino: When we apply skew always in horizontal direction, and get many complaints that this is incorrect
- # [18:23] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
- # [18:23] <fantasai> dino: Our only workaround is to say use a font that doesn't synthesize obliques
- # [18:24] <fantasai> dino: But current behavior is wrong
- # [18:24] <fantasai> dino: we do 7 at the moment when synthesizing italics
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- # [18:25] <fantasai> jdaggett: font-style is one of the properties that determines face selection within a family
- # [18:26] <fantasai> jdaggett: The only time that obliquing occurs is when there is no italic face
- # [18:26] <fantasai> jdaggett: Already right there have this differentiation that caues problems if publishers want 6 in all cases
- # [18:26] <fantasai> dino: Don't understand what they want 6, because changes Japanese text slant
- # [18:26] <fantasai> dino: 6 slants Japanese text vertically
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- # [18:27] <fantasai> fantasai: which is what word processors do
- # [18:27] <fantasai> rossen: We align with word processors in this case
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- # [18:27] <fantasai> jdaggett: Think there is an inherent assumption that Japanese fonts and associated Latin glyphs don't have italics
- # [18:27] <fantasai> jdaggett: Problem here is that if you have a case where someone specified Arial
- # [18:27] <fantasai> jdaggett: They will get Arial with true italics, but Japanese doing something else
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- # [18:29] <fantasai> jdaggett: Latin will display with Arial italics, Japanese will display with synthesized oblique
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- # [18:30] <fantasai> dino: Think Japanese publishers want 8
- # [18:30] <stearns> heh
- # [18:30] <fantasai> dino: Definitely don't want 7
- # [18:30] <fantasai> plinss: So specify #8, maybe add controls for obliquing direction in future
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- # [18:31] <fantasai> fantasai: I don't agree with that
- # [18:31] <fantasai> rossen: I don't agree with that
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- # [18:31] <koji> zakim, [ipcaller.a] is me
- # [18:31] <Zakim> +koji; got it
- # [18:32] <fantasai> fantasai: 8 is not a real option, because it uses true italics. What happens when everything is synthesized? The result is not in this list
- # [18:32] <dino> I believe John is saying #8, but where it was synthesized oblique (unlike in the diagram)
- # [18:32] <fantasai> dbaron: Why does synthetic obliquing have to happen before rotation?
- # [18:33] <fantasai> fantasai brings up case of vert
- # [18:34] <fantasai> jdaggett: If you want it to look good, get an italic font.
- # [18:34] <fantasai> jdaggett: Italics isn't used in japanese. Obliquing is used, but it's an effect like stroking or outlines
- # [18:35] <fantasai> rossen: Last time I was talking to Koji in Tucson, his opinion, when describing differences between 6 and 8, was that the feedback he's getting is half ppl asking for 6 for compat with word processors, other half asking for 8 mainly in EPUB space
- # [18:35] <fantasai> rossen: I think this discussion would benefit from having Koji plugged in before we take any decisions
- # [18:36] <fantasai> Koji: 6 is not for compat with word processors, but also necessary for ...
- # [18:36] <fantasai> Koji: 8 ... 8 also has special requirements, e.g. should not synthesize ...
- # [18:37] <fantasai> Koji: patch to limit synthesizing for special characters
- # [18:37] <fantasai> Koji: Many issues before you go with 8
- # [18:37] <fantasai> jdaggett: If you want complexity, need to spec it out
- # [18:37] <fantasai> jdaggett: It's a font selection property, need to look at how that works in context
- # [18:38] * dbaron doesn't see why 6 is simpler than 8
- # [18:38] <fantasai> fantasai: What Koji is saying is that getting 8 right is complex, whereas getting 6 is straightforward. If we want to avoid complexity, we should go with 6
- # [18:39] <fantasai> [...]
- # [18:39] <fantasai> Take this offline or to F2F
- # [18:39] <fantasai> plinss: If you can come up with something, come to group. Otherwise go to F2F
- # [18:39] <fantasai> jdaggett: That holds up LC by a month
- # [18:39] <fantasai> plinss: Understood. Work something out over email then.
- # [18:40] * sgalineau not sure what 'word processors' really means. are there several independent WPs in Japan that do agree or do we mean Word and things that copy it?
- # [18:40] <fantasai> dino: If helps any, can get ibooks Japanese team to get feedback
- # [18:40] <fantasai> jdaggett: Problem I'm having here is that we need to specify something, and need to specify it in terms of font style
- # [18:40] <fantasai> dino: The whole mechanism, how does it work
- # [18:40] <fantasai> s/dino/jdaggett/
- # [18:41] <fantasai> jdaggett: Given existing mechanism, one makes sense other doesn't
- # [18:41] <TabAtkins_> I thought we were taking this offline!
- # [18:41] <TabAtkins_> >_<
- # [18:41] <Rossen> yes, and you're on that line now..
- # [18:42] <fantasai> fantasai: Want to make it simple? Say that the regular glyphs are slanted to the right, and there exist vert glyphs for each codepoint that slant down.
- # [18:42] * stearns would be OK with specifying a random slant for every glyph, so that people wouldn't use faux italic :)
- # [18:42] * fantasai dbaron 8 is more complex because there are additional requirements to make that behavior work for Japanese
- # [18:42] <fantasai> jdaggett: We need a concrete proposal
- # [18:42] <fantasai> jdaggett: that says how font-style works
- # [18:43] <fantasai> koji: If fantasai and I come up with proposal, it's ok?
- # [18:43] <fantasai> jdovey: If Koji can put in writing what the exceptions are for Japanese, what problems are with 8, that would make this conversation go a lot more smoothly if we were to defer to next call or email or wherever
- # [18:44] <fantasai> jdovey: Getting across what issues are for vertically oriented languages seems to be the real problem right now.
- # [18:44] * sgalineau I don't think this word 'offline' means what I thought it did
- # [18:44] <fantasai> plinss: Next topic, CSS2.1 issues
- # [18:44] * jdovey can derail *any* topic in an instant!
- # [18:44] <fantasai> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15392
- # [18:44] <fantasai> fantasai: we had an issue open on the computed value of percentage heights that can't be resolved
- # [18:45] <fantasai> fantasai: proposed wording in comment #2
- # [18:45] <fantasai> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15392#c2
- # [18:45] <fantasai> fantasai: Do we accept or not?
- # [18:46] <Zakim> -??P11
- # [18:48] <dbaron> dbaron: fine with me
- # [18:48] <fantasai> RESOLVED: Accepted
- # [18:49] <fantasai> Discussed table pseudo-stacking contexts -> F2F for diagrammability
- # [18:49] <fantasai> Might consider reverting earlier change to table cells
- # [18:49] <dbaron> dbaron: But I might be in favor of reverting the previous resolution on tables and leaving things the way they are.
- # [18:49] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Want to see if Block-axis logical names proposal makes people happy
- # [18:50] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Proposal is to use 'start' and 'end' in both axes, and when necessary to disambiguate, use e.g. 'block-start' / 'inline-start', or 'row-start' / 'column-start'.
- # [18:50] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Would also simplify spec text reerring to start/before corner
- # [18:51] <fantasai> dbaron: Would existing margin-start/margin-end prefixed implementations become margin-inline-start/ margin-inline-end
- # [18:51] <dbaron> fantasai: And that gives you very useful shorthands margin-inline and margin-block
- # [18:51] * shezbaig_wk is there a link for this?
- # [18:52] <dbaron> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Apr/0265.html
- # [18:52] <fantasai> plinss: Concern about using as values, being ambiguous
- # [18:52] <fantasai> TabAtkins: It is actually one of the best advantages of this proposal
- # [18:52] <glenn> q+
- # [18:52] * Zakim sees glenn on the speaker queue
- # [18:52] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Because some properties (e.g. alignment) don't have to map before=start etc., since property applies to different axes depending on context.
- # [18:53] <plinss> ack glenn
- # [18:53] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
- # [18:53] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Just say start, it is correct always
- # [18:53] <fantasai> glenn: Only negative in that is that start/end/before/after are used to refer to edges as well
- # [18:53] <fantasai> glenn: If you use start-edge and end-edge, it's ambiguous
- # [18:53] <fantasai> TabAtkins: If you need to distinguish, use "block-start edge" and "block-end edge"
- # [18:54] <fantasai> glenn: Not objecting, just pointing this out
- # [18:54] <fantasai> plinss: Just to be clear, it's the spec author choosing whether to use start vs. block-start, not page author
- # [18:54] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Yes.
- # [18:54] <fantasai> TabAtkins: Brad and Simon noted approval in the thread
- # [18:54] <fantasai> plinss: Any objections?
- # [18:55] <fantasai> Rossen: No, let's take it. This one actually sounds pretty good.
- # [18:55] <fantasai> RESOLVED: Accept start/end proposal for both axes as described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2013Apr/0265.html
- # [18:55] <fantasai> Rossen: No more head/foot!
- # [18:55] * sgalineau bikeshed: shrink;
- # [18:55] * florian claps slowly
- # [18:55] <TabAtkins_> ScribeNick: TabAtkins_
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> Topic: Text Decoration
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Issue 15
- # [18:56] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-decor-3/issues-lc-2013#issue-15
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Question is whether text-shadow color is the color of the ink, or the color of currentcolor.
- # [18:56] <Zakim> -jdaggett
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Moz does one, WK does the other.
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I don't know if there's a good answer to this.
- # [18:56] * plinss lots of typing noise...
- # [18:56] <Rossen> Tab, can you mute yourself
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: If using the ink color, then if using a red underline, the underline's shadow will be red, even if the text is blue.
- # [18:56] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Which can bring some interesting effects.
- # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: But I'm curious about patterned fills.
- # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: Does that apply to currentcolor stuff too?
- # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: No, only the ink case.
- # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> leaverou_away: If we choose to use currentcolor, is there any way to emulate the behavior of the browses that shadow the ink?
- # [18:57] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: No.
- # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> leaverou_away: So maybe choose that, since authors can explicitly hook into the currentcolor behavior.
- # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> plinss: Does it make sense to allow for hooks in the future to control the color of the shadow?
- # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: That's enough of an edge case that I don't think we'll get there for 25 years. ^_^
- # [18:58] <TabAtkins_> plinss: I think it's odd to have a default that you can't create manually, but I don't feel too strongly.
- # [18:59] * leaverou_away is now known as leaverou
- # [18:59] <fantasai> oh, man, we just lost jdaggett, and need him for the next issue :(
- # [18:59] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: I tend to think the reason to use Gecko, is if people use text-shadow to apply a slight blur to text.
- # [18:59] * sgalineau '25 years' being shorthand for 'one GCPM level'
- # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> leaverou: I can see shadows beign useful for that - I've done it myself.
- # [19:00] <leaverou> s/shadows beign/shadowing the ink being/
- # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> plinss: Gecko's behavior is to use the ink color for the shadow?
- # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> dbaron: Yes.
- # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> plinss: So it makes sense when using the shadow for something that's not actually a shadow.
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- # [19:00] <TabAtkins_> plinss: Anyone think it's problematic to implement?
- # [19:01] <TabAtkins_> TabAtkins_: No idea, but I'm willing to accept it and see if anyone complains afterwards internally.
- # [19:02] <fantasai> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-text-decor-3/issues-lc-2013#issue-6
- # [19:02] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Breifly explaining the rset on the list.
- # [19:02] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Issue 6 requires someone with an understadning of font metrics to read through it and comment.
- # [19:02] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: jdaggett or someone at Adobe would be helpful - someone with experience in underlining metrics.
- # [19:02] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: Related issues: 11, 12, 13
- # [19:02] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: What do you consider when you are setting the underline thickness/position?
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- # [19:03] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: 12 is about whether we shoudl consider descendents, or just set thickness from the element itself.
- # [19:03] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: 13 is the same, but for position.
- # [19:03] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: 11 is about, when we do any consideration of descendents, do we do it per-line or across all lines in the element?
- # [19:03] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: So that's what's on the table - if you have comments, please take a look at them and we can talk about them later.
- # [19:03] <Zakim> -nvdbleek
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -glenn
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -sgalineau
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -smfr
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -Rossen
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- # [19:04] <Zakim> -jdovey
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- # [19:04] <Zakim> -koji
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -TabAtkins_
- # [19:04] <Zakim> - +1.212.318.aahh
- # [19:04] <Zakim> -plinss
- # [19:04] <Zakim> - +1.212.318.aaee
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- # [19:05] <Zakim> -fantasai
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- # [19:05] <Zakim> Style_CSS FP()12:00PM has ended
- # [19:05] <Zakim> Attendees were plinss, jdaggett, +1.610.324.aaaa, nvdbleek, dael, glenn, Stearns, +1.212.318.aabb, +1.206.675.aacc, sgalineau, florian, +44.207.330.aadd, +1.212.318.aaee,
- # [19:05] <Zakim> ... +1.416.800.aaff, fantasai, +93192aagg, antonp, jdovey, jerenkrantz, smfr, Lea, +1.212.318.aahh, Rossen, dbaron, dino, +1.832.797.aaii, TabAtkins_, [IPcaller], koji
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- # [19:09] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: We working together today?
- # [19:10] <fantasai> Um
- # [19:10] <fantasai> Too late now?
- # [19:10] * Parts: smfr (~smfr@public.cloak) (smfr)
- # [19:10] <fantasai> Last bus is in 5 minutes
- # [19:10] <fantasai> and no way I can catch it. :(
- # [19:10] <TabAtkins_> No problem, I was just wondering. I have more Syntax work to do today.
- # [19:10] <fantasai> kk
- # [19:11] <fantasai> When do you want to co-work next?
- # [19:11] * fantasai remembers also that she can't make today anyway
- # [19:11] * fantasai has to be downtown today
- # [19:11] <TabAtkins_> We can do Thursday, or I'm going to be in the city on Friday, so we can work out of the google office then.
- # [19:11] <fantasai> I'm working with Koji on Friday
- # [19:12] <fantasai> Could do tomorrow or next week Monday/Wednesday
- # [19:12] <TabAtkins_> I can do tomorrow.
- # [19:12] <fantasai> Ok...
- # [19:12] * fantasai will plan for that then
- # [19:12] <TabAtkins_> Next week is fine too.
- # [19:12] <TabAtkins_> Whatever works for you. ^_^
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- # [19:13] <fantasai> kk
- # [19:13] * sgalineau could hug both of you for the start/end resolution
- # [19:13] <fantasai> awww~ ^__^
- # [19:13] <TabAtkins_> ^^;
- # [19:13] * sgalineau might even do it at some f2f. The max-awkward property is born.
- # [19:13] <fantasai> lol
- # [19:14] * sgalineau #sylvaing { max-awkward: always; }
- # [19:14] <fantasai> working on Alignment triggered the idea, because it was the only thing that really made sense there once we thought about it
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- # [19:14] <sgalineau> totally. three lines into the email and I was screaming TADA in my office.
- # [19:16] <TabAtkins_> fantasai: I'm gonna go ahead and do the grid rename real quick.
- # [19:16] <fantasai> kk!
- # [19:17] <fantasai> sgalineau: yay!
- # [19:18] <sgalineau> grid rename? OMG WE'RE AT LAST CALL
- # [19:18] <fantasai> dude, we've been renaming things in grid for the last year
- # [19:19] <sgalineau> :) I'd be the first to admit it needed some serious renaming action
- # [19:19] <fantasai> lol
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