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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jun 03 00:00:00 2013
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  17. # [03:41] <SimonSapin> Nice. "Too many connections from your IP" on irc.mozilla.org … from a Mozilla office :]
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  19. # [03:41] <Liam-jp> heh
  20. # [03:42] <Liam-jp> maybe i should have another go at installing weasyprint today, with newer OS, I don't feel up to wandering around tokyo very much
  21. # [03:42] <SimonSapin> Liam-jp: cool. Feel free to ask anything
  22. # [03:43] <Liam-jp> tx, you were very helpful before and i think i stil lhave the logs
  23. # [03:44] <Liam-jp> was giong to try on the 'plane but no network access :)
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  31. # [05:14] <Liam-jp> hmm, no, failed again.
  32. # [05:19] <SimonSapin> Liam-jp: what failed?
  33. # [05:20] <Liam-jp> trying to install cffi
  34. # [05:21] <Liam-jp> looks like it didn't like building without bytecode compiler
  35. # [05:23] <Liam-jp> will investigate a little further
  36. # [05:26] <SimonSapin> assuming you’re running CPython, CFFI needs to compile some C code
  37. # [05:26] <SimonSapin> I’m not sure what building without bytecode compiler means.
  38. # [05:31] <Liam-jp> actually looks like same problem I had before. wonder if pip leaves files in home directory
  39. # [05:34] <SimonSapin> look in ~/.pip
  40. # [05:34] <Liam-jp> I get a weasyprint in venv/bin now, but I see it wants Pyphen and doesn't have it
  41. # [05:34] <SimonSapin> do you mean you get an ImportError?
  42. # [05:34] <Liam-jp> pip install Pyphen cleared it up, interesting
  43. # [05:35] <Liam-jp> ah, I see, cffi didn't build
  44. # [05:36] <Liam-jp> "/tmp/pip-build-root/cffi/c/_cffi_backend.c:2947: undefined reference to `dlerror'" - missing -ldl, same as I had before, hmm
  45. # [05:39] <Liam-jp> looks like it might be becaue of gcc/ld now using --as-needed for linked libraries
  46. # [05:44] <SimonSapin> Liam-jp: what OS is this? what Python version?
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  50. # [05:58] <Liam-jp> mageia linux 3
  51. # [05:58] <Liam-jp> python-2.7.3-7.mga3
  52. # [05:59] <Liam-jp> there's a python 3 available too
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  56. # [07:45] <Liam-jp> SimonSapin, success, after a fashion at least
  57. # [07:45] <Liam-jp> I made a shell script called gcc that appended -ldl -lpython2.7 to the arguments
  58. # [07:45] <SimonSapin> uh
  59. # [07:45] <SimonSapin> this sounds wrong in so many ways
  60. # [07:45] <Liam-jp> +1
  61. # [07:46] <Liam-jp> http://www.pastebin.ca/2387951
  62. # [07:46] <SimonSapin> I suppose the people maintaining Python packaging on Mageia are the ones to bug about this
  63. # [07:46] <Liam-jp> this is not an acceptable workaround really
  64. # [07:46] <Liam-jp> yes
  65. # [07:46] <Liam-jp> but there's a timezone dfference so I'll do it by email or when I get back from japan
  66. # [07:48] <Liam-jp> ok, I got pdf from it too
  67. # [07:50] <SimonSapin> try this too: http://weasyprint.org/docs/tutorial/#weasyprint-navigator
  68. # [07:51] <Liam-jp> ah! the install docs mentioned the navigator but not that one should point a Web browser at it :)
  69. # [07:51] <Liam-jp> in http://weasyprint.org/docs/install/
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  72. # [07:55] <SimonSapin> oh, that’s behind the link but I suppose I could duplicate that information
  73. # [07:55] <Liam-jp> now I can enjoy "unknown at-rule in stylesheet context: @font-face" :D
  74. # [07:58] <SimonSapin> hehe
  75. # [07:58] <Liam-jp> http://127.0.0.1:5000/view/http://words.fromoldbooks.org/Chalmers-Biography/c/caslon-william.html didn't look very good, probably stuff I need to work on although there's also some bad linebreaking I think, and maybe some imperfect justification
  76. # [07:59] <Liam-jp> (I'm fine with getting css errors, every now and then I go through web browser consoles to fix them but i get swamped by errors from google ads, google needs to omply someone who knows css :-) )
  77. # [08:00] <SimonSapin> automatically rebuilt docs ftw http://weasyprint.org/docs/install/
  78. # [08:00] <Liam-jp> aha, thanks! :)
  79. # [08:00] <SimonSapin> that, and GitHub online editing
  80. # [08:01] <Liam-jp> yes, that's clearer
  81. # [08:01] <SimonSapin> although there is not much more behind the "read more" now ;)
  82. # [08:01] <Liam-jp> don't know why I couldn't type into the uri bar in the "navigator" but only paste, but I think that's a chromium bug, I've seen it occasionally on other sites
  83. # [08:01] <Liam-jp> s/chromium/firefox/
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  86. # [08:31] <SimonSapin> I want to have an editor à la Dabblet, where your code is re-rendered with WeasyPrint as you type
  87. # [08:31] <SimonSapin> but haven’t made it yet :/
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  89. # [08:35] <Liam-jp> not familiar with dabblet; there's an editor called serna (and openserna) that uses XSL-FO to render the document as you type
  90. # [08:37] <Liam-jp> SimonSapin, it seems my problem is only with cython, and that it's because of --no-undefined being passed to ld these days
  91. # [08:38] <Liam-jp> which means makefiles have to be explicit about libraries; not sure if this is your setup.py or Makefile, or cython's fault but I'm leaning towards the latter as lxml also fails to build in the same way
  92. # [08:38] <Liam-jp> and google helped me find lots of other packages with similar problems since the change to --no-undefined to prevent the linker from pulling in extra libraries automatically
  93. # [08:38] <SimonSapin> hum, the only cython that weasyprint indirectly uses is with lxml
  94. # [08:39] <SimonSapin> not cffi
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  96. # [08:39] <SimonSapin> do you have issues building lxml too?
  97. # [08:40] <Liam-jp> yes
  98. # [08:40] <Liam-jp> (if I use --no-system-packages on virtualenv)
  99. # [08:40] <Liam-jp> <neoclust> philippem: if i build cffi "manually" it fails too
  100. # [08:40] <Liam-jp> (mageia people looking at it)
  101. # [08:40] <SimonSapin> good
  102. # [09:13] <Liam-jp> <neoclust> Ankh: this is an upstream bug so i will patch and send upstream
  103. # [09:13] <Liam-jp> (for cffi)
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