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- # Session Start: Mon Nov 04 00:00:00 2013
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- # [00:27] <SimonSapin> heycam: yes, what we had before was wrong
- # [00:27] <heycam> SimonSapin, ok. will revise my Variables patches then. :)
- # [00:34] <SimonSapin> heycam: do you have a link for that patch?
- # [00:37] <heycam> SimonSapin, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=804217 defines an enum representing types of tokens between which we might need to insert "/**/"
- # [00:38] <heycam> SimonSapin, and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=816309 defines a function SeparatorRequiredBetweenTokens which takes two of those enums
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- # [00:52] <SimonSapin> heycam: after checking, it was wrong only in really corner cases
- # [00:52] <SimonSapin> like foo/**/-->
- # [00:52] <SimonSapin> serialization would miss adding the comment back
- # [00:53] <SimonSapin> but it was also adding unnecessary comments in common cases: foo>.bar (if you had a selector) would be foo/**/>/**/./**/bar
- # [00:54] <SimonSapin> also, how do you serialize bad-string or bad-url?
- # [00:56] <heycam> SimonSapin, I see, yeah the "foo>.bar" one seems like something you'd want to avoid
- # [00:56] <heycam> SimonSapin, bad-string I don't think I do anything special for, since you only get it with a newline in the middle of the string, I think?
- # [00:56] <heycam> SimonSapin, so it didn't need any special handling
- # [00:57] <heycam> SimonSapin, not too sure about bad-url, as that might have more ways to become bad
- # [00:57] <SimonSapin> do you store their original content?
- # [00:58] <heycam> SimonSapin, yes I believe so
- # [00:58] <heycam> well I don't, but the scanner already does
- # [00:59] <heycam> might need some more testing; I only have a couple of variable serialization tests involving bad-string/url
- # [00:59] <SimonSapin> I see, thanks
- # [01:00] <SimonSapin> rust-cssparser doesn’t store any value for bad-url and bad-string tokens, but maybe it should, for serializaiton
- # [01:02] <heycam> oh, the Variables spec already says that bad-string/url can't appear in variable values
- # [01:02] <heycam> maybe we should do that for all features where you can serialize the thing back (@supports conditions, not sure what else...)
- # [01:03] <SimonSapin> maybe
- # [01:04] <SimonSapin> for now I use serialization in Servo for error reporting
- # [01:04] <SimonSapin> so that includes bad tokens
- # [01:05] <heycam> I see. seems like it might be more important to report exact input strings for error reporting? (depending on the kind of error)
- # [01:05] <SimonSapin> maybe, but I don’t have the input string anymore at that point
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- # [07:02] <krit> TabAtkins: ping?
- # [07:03] <krit> We were talking about open ranges for CSS. Is something like: bigger than 0 not bigger than 10 allowed?
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- # [20:00] <TabAtkins> krit: No. That's (0, 10], a half-open range.
- # [20:01] <krit> TabAtkins: Is that for parsing or interpretation? Say, 12 gets parsed and is just fine but gets clipped to 10 during processing?
- # [20:02] <krit> TabAtkins: In my case it is an attribute, but think attribute and property definitions shouldn’t differ too much
- # [20:02] <TabAtkins> Well, you can't clamp to an open range at all.
- # [20:02] <TabAtkins> Correct, they shouldn't.
- # [20:02] <TabAtkins> The reasons for no-open-ranges aren't specific to properties at all, they're just general principles about value spaces that should be observed everywhere.
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- # [20:05] <TabAtkins> krit: I wrote up a wiki page for how to turn ranges that are naturally open into closed ranges.
- # [20:05] <TabAtkins> http://wiki.csswg.org/spec/limited-ranges
- # [20:06] <Ms2ger> ... by taking the closure?
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- # [20:06] <krit> TabAtkins: so the problem is the 0 for you? So you would rather want something like [0, 10]
- # [20:07] * krit talking after reading 1 sentence
- # [20:07] <TabAtkins> Ms2ger: That's the preferred behavior, yeah. Find a limit behavior and assign that to 0.
- # [20:07] <TabAtkins> krit: You *need* something like [0,10]. Open ranges simply aren't acceptable.
- # [20:07] <TabAtkins> They wont' pass review, assuming someone notices sthem.
- # [20:08] <Ms2ger> That's a big assumption
- # [20:08] <krit> TabAtkins: thanks for the link!
- # [20:08] <TabAtkins> Well, yeah, but at some point it'll get noticed, and then we have to fix the spec.
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- # [23:54] <TabAtkins> fantasai: Yo, I just swallowed issuegen into Bikeshed.
- # [23:54] * TabAtkins is now known as TabAtkins_
- # [23:55] <TabAtkins_> Calling `bikeshed issues-list foo.txt` will produce a foo.html.
- # [23:55] <TabAtkins_> It produced an identical file for the Counter Style issues list, so I'm declaring it good.
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