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  77. # [18:50] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Oh shoot, you're right, it doesn't. Darn.
  78. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> SimonSapin: Yes, we have. I'm still in favor, fantasai isn't.
  79. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> (I think she doesn't like the fact that it's technically redundant?)
  80. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> But I think it's way easier to use for common cases.
  81. # [18:51] <SimonSapin> redundant with the subject indicator?
  82. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> Yeah.
  83. # [18:51] <SimonSapin> if it’s instead of, it’s not redundant :)
  84. # [18:51] <TabAtkins> Hah.
  85. # [18:52] <SimonSapin> I believe they’re equal in power
  86. # [18:52] <TabAtkins> I think so, but I also think there are some reasonable patterns difficult to express in each that are easy in the other.
  87. # [18:53] <SimonSapin> and the subject indicator has issue (which character? before or after? breaking the so-far invariant that the rightmost part is the subject)
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  89. # [18:53] <TabAtkins> The patterns that :has() makes easy are annoying to express with the subject indicator, unless :has() is on the last compound selector.
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  92. # [18:54] <TabAtkins> Yeah, but it also has the benefit of simplicity in other aspects - you just write a selector like normal, and then add the indicator.
  93. # [18:54] <TabAtkins> "foo bar baz" becomes "foo !bar baz" rather than "foo bar:has(baz)", so it's a smaller transformation.
  94. # [18:54] <TabAtkins> bbiab - have to do an interview
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  97. # [19:17] <SimonSapin> I’m not super convinced :) "foo bar baz" is not at all the same, so you’re not transforming already-written code from that
  98. # [19:22] <astearns> I think :has() expresses the intent much more clearly
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  114. # [22:12] <Hixie> :has(), which is actually a subset of :matches(), is way more powerful than an indicator
  115. # [22:12] <Hixie> an indicator is pretty lame, imho.
  116. # [22:12] <TabAtkins> :matches() + ! is equally powerful to :has()
  117. # [22:13] <TabAtkins> I do agree that :has() is easiest for a lot of common cases.
  118. # [22:13] <TabAtkins> :matches() + ! is easier for some more complex cases.
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