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  1. # Session Start: Thu Jan 16 00:00:01 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:00] <TabAtkins> Good *lord*. Saying *that* is precisely what's been so annoying here. The fact that I believe something for pedestrian reasons shouldn't be a disappointment.
  4. # [00:01] <sgalineau> Wait. I need your permission in order for *me* to be disappointed by something?
  5. # [00:02] <sgalineau> I don't think it's important at all. I should be happy about my own lack of understanding?
  6. # [00:02] <sgalineau> of course I'm disappointed when it appears I'm wrong.
  7. # [00:02] <sgalineau> duh.
  8. # [00:02] <TabAtkins> No, but it's rude to be "when I don't get enough of an answer i'll ask for a better one.". The stock answer is my whole answer, because it's a good and complete answer.
  9. # [00:02] <TabAtkins> You keep implying, throughout this conversation, that by giving a stock answer, I'm avoiding your question.
  10. # [00:03] <TabAtkins> Or not thinking through things.
  11. # [00:03] <TabAtkins> Which *is* offensive.
  12. # [00:03] <TabAtkins> Because, surprise surprise, sometimes the stock answer is the correct one! Or at least a valid one that is okay for me to hold.
  13. # [00:03] <sgalineau> I think I have good reasons too. I think it's valid to ask whether there is more to it than the stock answer. and sometimes I think there *is* more to it than the stock answer.
  14. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> And when I say "No. There's no more. That's it.", leave it alone! I'm not lying! Quit implying that I am! It's rude! Exclamation marks!!!
  15. # [00:04] <sgalineau> so 'this is the stock answer' is not enough. understanding why people think the stock answer is *sufficient* is better.
  16. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> I think it's sufficient for the stock justification!
  17. # [00:04] <sgalineau> stock answers are pretty good stock justifications. FACT
  18. # [00:04] <TabAtkins> Sorry for not writing out the justification for standardization in full, when we both know the standard answer.
  19. # [00:05] <sgalineau> I'm not sure I knew the standard answer. Or at least, that it stopped there.
  20. # [00:05] <TabAtkins> This isn't a special snowflake of a situation, as I keep saying. There's nothing else that it needs to answer for, so it's okay to stop there.
  21. # [00:05] <sgalineau> not exactly uncommon in this group for people to agree on something for different not-totally-overlapping reasons
  22. # [00:05] <TabAtkins> This is a feature. There is divergence. That causes pain. We can fix ti.
  23. # [00:06] <sgalineau> i'm getting the point that I can't keep asking but you can keep repeating the same thing over and over.
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  25. # [00:06] <TabAtkins> You may, if you're paying attention, realize that the *reason* I'm repeating myself is because you keep asking.
  26. # [00:07] <TabAtkins> Ask me once, get an answer once. It's a pretty simple process.
  27. # [00:07] <TabAtkins> Ask me twice, I'll tell you again!
  28. # [00:07] <sgalineau> wait, where was I *asking* something right now?
  29. # [00:08] <TabAtkins> Are you asking me to quote you a line where there is a question mark? Or is it sufficient for you to read your own words where you continue to say that my answer is insufficient and you don't like it?
  30. # [00:08] <sgalineau> "This is a feature. There is divergence. That causes pain. We can fix ti." what was it in answer to?
  31. # [00:08] <TabAtkins> 15:09 <sgalineau> I'm not sure I knew the standard answer. Or at least, that it stopped there.
  32. # [00:09] <sgalineau> whoa. if you construe me asking from this, no wonder.
  33. # [00:11] <hober> http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/post/73452446016/today-in-css
  34. # [00:12] <hober> brb, gotta get more popcorn
  35. # [00:12] <sgalineau> OH GOD MY EYES
  36. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> hober: That picture is © me, please remove it, it is a personal glamour shot
  37. # [00:16] <TabAtkins> Intended only as a marriage aid
  38. # [00:17] <gsnedders> hober: <3
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  40. # [00:23] <astearns> man I'm glad I was away from the screen for that
  41. # [00:23] <TabAtkins> A lesson was learned, but the damage is irreversible.
  42. # [00:24] <TabAtkins> Now, astearns, I'm subtly offended by an answer you gave earlier, and would like to argue with you for 20 minutes about it.
  43. # [00:24] <astearns> HOW DARE YOU!
  44. # [00:25] <astearns> we're only supposed to argue endlessly about things we don't understand we already agree upon
  45. # [00:25] <TabAtkins> I was planning on arguing about "axises".
  46. # [00:26] <TabAtkins> I think it should be spelled "axii"
  47. # [00:26] <TabAtkins> Or "a12" for short.
  48. # [00:26] <hober> speaking of which, I heard someone say "axy/axie" to refer to one axis today
  49. # [00:26] <TabAtkins> hober: Like, one axi, two axis?
  50. # [00:26] <astearns> definitely should be spelled 'axy'
  51. # [00:27] <TabAtkins> Nah, astearns, then the plural would be axies.
  52. # [00:27] <astearns> that's exactly why :)
  53. # [00:27] <TabAtkins> Well, it'd be axies with axi anyway.
  54. # [00:27] <hober> one axie, two axies
  55. # [00:27] <astearns> one axy, two axis, just to keep Tab angry
  56. # [00:27] <TabAtkins> That's my secret. I'm always angry.
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  64. # [01:07] <liam> you have axies to grind?
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  67. # [01:12] <TabAtkins> *axiesii
  68. # [01:14] <liam> ii captain!
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  70. # [01:15] <liam> certainly we can't use "axes" because that's evil.
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  73. # [01:45] <TabAtkins> astearns: I don't know what you mean by "writing out ... with a keyword". It doesn't seem to be similar to "write 0%/50%/100% with a keyword".
  74. # [01:45] <TabAtkins> And in particular, you can't ever write an end-centric value with a keyword.
  75. # [01:45] <TabAtkins> Unless you mean like "right 30px", but that requires the 3/4 value form.
  76. # [01:46] <astearns> I'm halfway through a different approach
  77. # [01:46] <astearns> I'll post in a moment
  78. # [01:46] <TabAtkins> Heh, kk
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  87. # [02:26] <TabAtkins> fantasai: Grid is totally prepared. As soon as plinss declares the CfC to pass, we can zip it up and send it to Jeremie.
  88. # [02:26] <TabAtkins> Missed the Thursday slot, obviously, but we can get a Tuesday pub.
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  308. # [17:41] <Ms2ger> Ship all the things!
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The end :)