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  1. # Session Start: Sat Feb 15 00:00:00 2014
  2. # Session Ident: #css
  3. # [00:18] <SimonSapin> plinss: What would it take to move http://www.w3.org/Style/css2-updates/css2/ to http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css2/ ?
  4. # [00:18] <SimonSapin> Ideally, with sources and build system
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  7. # [00:35] <plinss> SimonSapin: if you really want to have it under dev.w3.org/csswg, then it only needs to be checked into the hg repo, but I'm not sure what all the build system requirements are and if anything needs to run on the server
  8. # [00:35] <plinss> But since Bert is maintaining all of that, you should get his buy-in before moving anything
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  10. # [00:35] <SimonSapin> sure
  11. # [00:38] <fantasai> 2.1 runs on a completely independent build system
  12. # [00:38] <fantasai> run by make and a bunch of random other things
  13. # [00:38] <fantasai> the W3C cvs server (www.w3.org repo) has some post-commit hooks that handle this automatically
  14. # [00:38] <SimonSapin> I’d like to make the version that has errata applied more visible, and /TR publication is gonna take a while
  15. # [00:39] <SimonSapin> maybe having it listed as ED in http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/current-work matters more than the URL
  16. # [00:39] <fantasai> I don't know if the URl you posted is even live :/
  17. # [00:40] <fantasai> If it's live, then, fine
  18. # [00:40] <fantasai> if it's not live...
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  20. # [00:40] <fantasai> listing the *real* ED in current-work
  21. # [00:40] <fantasai> and setting up a redirect from dev.w3.org/csswg/css2/ should be sufficient
  22. # [00:40] <fantasai> but, again, dunno if that copy is live
  23. # [00:40] <fantasai> or just more recent than /TR :(
  24. # [00:41] <fantasai> the ED's direct URL is Members-only atm
  25. # [00:42] <SimonSapin> there’s another URL for the ED?
  26. # [00:42] <SimonSapin> :(
  27. # [00:42] <fantasai> https://www.w3.org/Style/Group/css2-src/
  28. # [00:42] <fantasai> That's where the sources live
  29. # [00:45] <SimonSapin> I don’t understand the L2 split between chapters and appendix
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  32. # [00:47] <SimonSapin> Please tell having appendix titles that start with A, B, C, D, E is not the only reason zindex.html is an appendix
  33. # [00:49] <fantasai> I suspect it's historical
  34. # [00:50] <fantasai> zindex.html is written at a level of detail, precision, and algorithmicness that far surpasses anything else in 2.1
  35. # [00:51] <SimonSapin> sounds like a reason to NOT be an appendix
  36. # [00:51] <fantasai> it's probably an appendix for the same reason that the full-size-kana conversion tables were put into an appendix in CSS3 Text
  37. # [00:52] <fantasai> It *is* a normative appendix
  38. # [00:53] <fantasai> If TabAtkins and I ever get around to rewriting Positioning
  39. # [00:53] <fantasai> we'll probably inline it
  40. # [00:54] <fantasai> but also try to make it more understandable
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  44. # [01:05] <TabAtkins_> Yeah.
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  54. # [02:32] <SimonSapin> fantasai, TabAtkins: maybe zindex.html should go together with 'visibility' in something about painting but not specific to positioning
  55. # [02:37] <fantasai> visibility also has collapsing implications
  56. # [02:38] <fantasai> so I'd actually put it with the Display module
  57. # [02:42] <TabAtkins> It's nothing to do with box generation, though.
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  60. # [02:57] <fantasai> TabAtkins: No, but the desired effects are close enough that I'd put them together so people find them
  61. # [02:58] <fantasai> TabAtkins: The fact that it doesn't control generation of things in the box tree isn't as interesting to authors
  62. # [02:58] <fantasai> TabAtkins: as the fact that it has similar effects to controlling that
  63. # [02:59] <fantasai> TabAtkins: And for the benefit of spec development, putting these features together is good because they solve similar (often overlapping) problems
  64. # [02:59] <fantasai> TabAtkins: so it's good to be able to understand and develop them within the context of each other
  65. # [03:00] <TabAtkins> Sure, that's convincing.
  66. # [03:00] * fantasai yay for being convincing? :P
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  68. # [03:00] <fantasai> funny, last Valentine's Day I was also formatting minutes all day...
  69. # [03:00] <fantasai> but the weather was better
  70. # [03:00] <TabAtkins> <3
  71. # [03:00] <fantasai> aww
  72. # [03:01] * fantasai got stood up and set lots of things on fire, it was super fun
  73. # [03:01] <TabAtkins> Happy Palentine's Day!
  74. # [03:01] <fantasai> :D
  75. # [03:01] <TabAtkins> We restarted Formal Friday Whiskey Club today, so it was pretty good over here.
  76. # [03:01] <fantasai> nice
  77. # [03:02] * fantasai took a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fantasai/8475792040/
  78. # [03:02] <TabAtkins> Oooh~
  79. # [03:06] <fantasai> Honestly some of the best weather in SF ever. I only wore a light jacket at 11 o'clock at night. That like never happens!
  80. # [03:08] <TabAtkins> Man, I know.
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